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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Do not worry; that is fine.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Frankly, our concern is that the system is not responding to the crisis, and not just in Dundee, because Dundee is not a one-off. I think that it has been subtly acknowledged that there is a wider problem with the sector, but our concern is that you are not helping to expose that wider problem by having a public debate. Your having had that private discussion with ministers means that we are not able鈥攏ot just months delayed鈥攖o have that urgent debate about the future of our universities, which are under extreme stress.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

That has not come up with your members?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Nigel, you are not responsible for the Funding Council, but you have a significant background in and significant knowledge of that sector. With the fire that is going on in higher and further education funding鈥擨 am referring to the likes of the situation at the University of Dundee鈥攄o you think the SFC has the headspace to be able to do this?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

You would have thought that the people who are in charge of the organisation鈥攖he decision makers; in other words, the critical people who consider such things鈥攎ight be slightly distracted by such a big change.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Are you satisfied with that, Mr Boyle?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

I accept what the minister has said about the amendments being strictly necessary鈥擨 think that those were the words that she used. However, sufficiently senior people in the education world have concerns that the issue is not getting sufficient focus from the inspectorate just now. Although it is possible to evaluate safeguarding, that is not necessarily happening consistently enough to satisfy those individuals.

Perhaps we do not have to put it into the bill, but I hope that the cabinet secretary takes away the fact that there needs to be a discussion with the inspectorate about the role that it plays in safeguarding and the resource and priority that it gives to safeguarding in inspections. After all, the people who have raised those concerns are not insignificant. They are concerned that local authority systems鈥攏ot at the child protection level but at the level below鈥攁re not sufficiently robust. I hope that the cabinet secretary takes away the fact that there are concerns out there and that priorities need to change.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

That is a very fair point, and we should consider it in the discussions that I hope that the cabinet secretary will be prepared to have.

I move amendment 308.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

On this occasion, I think that this is about people, because we are talking about short-term measures. We are considering the current board. I would not want there to be any period of uncertainty here. I think that Shirley Rogers is impressive鈥攊ndeed, she was impressive when she came before the committee鈥攁nd I would not like her to think that her job might come to an end. I want her to crack on and make the changes that we want to see. If I had been asked the question a year ago, I might have agreed with you, but not now.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Again, you are taking this on. They are going to be your costs.