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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 26 December 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Miles Briggs

A cross-party review is about to take place through Universities Scotland, which will finish before the election, but I wonder what you would advise ministers to do, given the health of the sector and the concern that now seems to be expressed weekly by different institutions that are in different levels of financial health.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Miles Briggs

I take on board what the cabinet secretary has said, because for most of us, the cases that parents and carers have raised with us have been about children who have additional support needs and in many instances they concern non-verbal children. That is a major concern because parents are not able to follow up on what has gone on during the school day with the child and they have they not been able to find out from professionals.

I wonder about where the Government is minded to see those changes in a school context. The cabinet secretary has raised a point about the findings of the Care Commission. I thought it was interesting that we have seen a reduction in that. I am not quite sure what is behind that, and I do not know whether the cabinet secretary knows either. What has changed to deliver that reduction? That is a two-part question about different school contexts.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Miles Briggs

Would you expect that to be appear very quickly following the bill’s passage?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Miles Briggs

Dundee university has, quite rightly, received a lot of attention from this committee, from the Scottish Funding Council and from ministers, but every institution with which I have met is reporting its financial vulnerability. How many of our institutions—both universities and colleges—have outlined, in the run-up to the budget discussions, that they are in a similar situation of financial vulnerability?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Miles Briggs

Do you have confidence that the Scottish Funding Council is looking at each institution’s situation and then bringing to you—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Miles Briggs

Do you think that that level is realistic? Over the past 10 years, the university has used a level of between 3 per cent and 4 per cent, and the University of Edinburgh has set a level of 7 per cent to 9 per cent, with its accounts for 2023-24 suggesting that the level was 5.8 per cent. I am worried that setting it at 10 per cent will again set up the university so that it does not look like an attractive option to commercial lenders. I know that UCU suggested 4 per cent in some of its conversations. That 10 per cent seems high and unrealistic if we are talking about an average of 3 per cent to 4 per cent in the past decade.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Miles Briggs

I will go back a step to look at the non-statutory guidance that you mentioned in your opening statement. I take on board that you said that the review of the guidance was due to start shortly. However, the NASUWT expressed clear concerns about the guidance when it was published. What learning has the Government taken from those concerns to ensure that such issues do not arise in relation to the bill, especially regarding what the NASUWT said about there being insufficient clarity? It said that the guidance

“will leave children and staff in school at risk”.

The Government has a responsibility to consider how to clarify the guidance, which is a point that I will come on to. I know that the Government has not reviewed the guidance, but what lessons have you already learned from the concerns that were expressed about it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Miles Briggs

One of the key aspects of that concern has been about definitions—those that are in the member’s bill and those that the Government uses are different. How will the Government amend the bill’s definitions of restraint and seclusion, and how will that encompass practices that are not of obvious concern?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Miles Briggs

Mr Hamill, on the basis of your experience since you have come into post and your experience at the University of Edinburgh, do you think that there is an alternative to the model that has been put forward? The briefing that the committee has had from UCU is interesting in what it says about that, and you have outlined that, on paper, the debt levels of Dundee university are relatively low. Is there an alternative plan that you could talk to the Government about, which might, for example, involve it being the primary lender? The Scottish Funding Council is offering you information about the money that the Government has managed to secure, but would you, as someone who has come in at this point, do something different from what is now proposed?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Miles Briggs

What changes do you think could be brought forward in order to make that information more publicly available, and available to this committee? One of my biggest concerns is that there was not an earlier opportunity for oversight at Dundee university, and—arguably—all other institutions have not moved forward in respect of the transparency and availability of accounts.