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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 August 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Miles Briggs

That is helpful. It is important to understand where liability lies and to take into account companies merging and things like that. Of the 105 buildings, you do not have a linked builder for half. Is that correct?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Miles Briggs

Okay. I think that the committee would like to be kept up to date on that. There has been a lot of secrecy around this. We understand the situation that home owners are in, and having more public accountability and information is really important.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Miles Briggs

The greatest concern is about who has professional capacity and how it can be maximised at pace. That is a potential solution.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Miles Briggs

The convener is waggling her pen—

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Miles Briggs

I think that she was waggling it at me, minister.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Miles Briggs

We are talking about decades before we can legitimately—

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Miles Briggs

I think that it does. My question is whether those buildings have not been included because the task with homes seems to be so huge. We are talking about 105 pilot projects, not the potentially 5,000 buildings across Scotland that might need surveying. Obviously, those are the high-risk buildings that we are talking about.

How long do you think things will take? I am an Edinburgh MSP; other committee members are Glasgow ˿. We represent parts of the country in which those buildings predominantly are and people who are now trapped in those buildings with mortgages on properties that they cannot sell. You have outlined insurance problems, as well. With what is an in-principle agreement—I would like to know from the minister what we are talking about with that—how long do you think it will be until things can be resolved?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Miles Briggs

A large number of buildings that are included in England are being omitted in Scotland—specifically, hotels and hospitals. I have concerns about that. What is the thinking behind those buildings not being included? Is that under review?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Miles Briggs

The Government’s in-principle agreement states:

“Single Building Assessments will help us understand the scope and scale of cladding issues across Scotland.”

I am not sure that we will achieve that if we do not include those buildings. I think that most people would imagine that any building in which people sleep will be part of the review process. I understand that hospitals are public buildings and they will have 24-hour waking watches, if you like, as part of their management, but I think that hotels are a special case.

Where is the Government on that? You talked about discussions with colleagues across the rest of the UK. They are taking this work forward. It would be concerning if Scotland did not include hotels and we were then an outlier because we had not had that work done. Is there potential to review that to make sure that we are not in a very different position compared with the rest of the UK?

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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety

Meeting date: 30 May 2023

Miles Briggs

Maybe you could keep us updated on that area as well, as we have concerns about it.

The Building Safety Act 2022, which applies in England, has been mentioned a couple of times. You have committed to legislation potentially being brought forward. Is there anything in that act that you believe could be brought in as emergency legislation to move us forward? I asked you how long it could take for this to be resolved and for people in Scotland to have peace of mind. I do not think that anyone wants to commit to that, but, if we are talking about 105 buildings and then a potential 5,000, it could be decades before we can genuinely say—