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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 28 December 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change Committee’s Review of Scottish Emissions Targets and Progress Report 2022

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Edward Mountain

I am conscious of the time and, although I do not want to limit anyone’s contributions, I know that if I do not allow other committee members to ask their questions, I will not have a good Christmas. I will bring in Emily Nurse and then I will go to Liam Kerr with the next questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change Committee’s Review of Scottish Emissions Targets and Progress Report 2022

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Edward Mountain

No. I am keen to bring in Mark Ruskell, who has a question on agriculture.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change Committee’s Review of Scottish Emissions Targets and Progress Report 2022

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Edward Mountain

Before we move to item 2, I declare an interest. As members will know from my entry in the register of members’ interests, I have an interest in an agricultural farming partnership and in property rental markets. I want to get that on the record because some of the subject areas that we will cover today will include those.

Item 2 is an evidence session on the Climate Change Committee’s recently published review of Scottish emissions targets and its progress report to the Scottish Parliament. On 7 December, the CCC laid in the Parliament its 11th annual progress report, as required by the Climate Change (Scotland) Act 2009. The report sets out 99 recommendations to the Scottish Government for meeting Scotland’s emissions reduction targets for the years 2020, 2030 and 2045. I refer members to the relevant papers under agenda item 2.

I welcome our witnesses from the Climate Change Committee, who join us remotely. They are the Rt Hon the Lord Deben, who is the chairman; Professor Keith Bell, Scotland champion; and Marili—I am going to get this wrong. Is it Marili? Sorry, I am fudging my words. We have with us Marili Boufounou—I hope that I finally got that right—who is an analyst of the devolved Administrations, and Emily Nurse, who is team leader of carbon budgets. I thank you all for accepting our invitation. We are delighted to have you here. Before we ask questions, I invite Lord Deben to make an opening statement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change Committee’s Review of Scottish Emissions Targets and Progress Report 2022

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Edward Mountain

That is very helpful. Mark Ruskell has some questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change Committee’s Review of Scottish Emissions Targets and Progress Report 2022

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Edward Mountain

If we start with Lord Deben, he can allocate it.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change Committee’s Review of Scottish Emissions Targets and Progress Report 2022

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Edward Mountain

You almost played a magical tune to Monica Lennon, because one of her areas of expertise is planning. Thank you for that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change Committee’s Review of Scottish Emissions Targets and Progress Report 2022

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Edward Mountain

If anyone does, they will need to be brief, I am afraid.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change Committee’s Review of Scottish Emissions Targets and Progress Report 2022

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Edward Mountain

We have come to the end of questions. I am going to have a nice Christmas, because I managed to allow all committee members to ask what they wanted to ask.

I thank our witnesses for taking part and sharing their expertise. On behalf of the committee, I extend a special thanks to Lord Deben for his input in the past and today. It is clear that you have a huge depth of knowledge, and you choreographed your team beautifully to ensure that we were able to draw on their expertise.

I think that I am not breaking any confidences if I say that you are standing down next year, so it might be that we will not get to see you in person—especially because you believe that such appearances do not contribute to our net zero ambitions. However, we would have liked to have seen you in person to benefit from your experience. Nevertheless, I give you special thanks on behalf of the committee, and our predecessor committee, for your input and the hard work that you have put in. I thank you and your team. I hope that we have an opportunity to catch up with you next year, before you stand down.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Climate Change Committee’s Review of Scottish Emissions Targets and Progress Report 2022

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Edward Mountain

Yes. I am looking for a couple of examples of targets being achieved by the UK and Scotland working together as a whole and a couple of areas in which targets have not been achieved because there has not been combined working.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decisions on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Edward Mountain

We must also consider whether to take in private at future meetings our consideration of the committee’s approach to scrutiny of the outcomes of the 15th United Nations conference of the parties to the Convention on Biological Diversity—COP15—and consideration of the committee’s draft report on the role of local government and its cross-sectoral partners in financing and delivering a net zero Scotland. Do we agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.