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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 30 December 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

A lot of members would like to ask supplementary questions. I will bring in Liam Kerr first.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Liam Kerr has a supplementary question, and I will ask a quick question at the end.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

I will follow up on that. It was not many years ago that vast tracts of Aberdeenshire countryside that was good arable land were bought up and planted in trees. That was done because the grants were such that they encouraged tree planting and discouraged agriculture. We have seen bits of Scotland planted in wind turbines, if that is the right description. I looked at the figures for 2021, I think, for the deaths of birds of prey, and, if I remember rightly, something like four buzzards, four sea eagles and eight ospreys had been chopped up by wind turbines.

Therefore, we cannot use land for all purposes; there must be more of a zonal approach. As you have indicated, what works in the Cairngorms might not work elsewhere. Has the Government considered taking a more zonal approach to land use? Land resource is finite, but the uses are not.

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Before you go on, minister, I note that some people might argue that one of the biggest threats to birds at the moment is avian flu. However, I understand that, in the long term, it may be climate change. I just wanted to put that on the record.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

We have another question from the deputy convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Do not touch a button. The microphone will come on for you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Good morning and welcome to the ninth meeting of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee in 2023. Today we have received apologies from Monica Lennon and Ash Regan. I welcome Collette Stevenson. Mercedes Villalba will also attend later, as a substitute. When she joins us I will have to pause to ask her whether she wants to declare interests before she asks any questions. Technically, that is the first item on the agenda, but it will come at the correct moment.

Therefore, we will move to agenda item 2, which is to make a decision on whether to take items 6, 7 and 8 in private. Items 6 and 7 are consideration of the evidence that we will hear today on the outcome of the 15th United Nations biodiversity conference of the parties—COP15—and Scotland’s deposit return scheme. Item 8 is consideration of a draft report on the United Kingdom Energy Bill. Do members agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Item 3 is an evidence session that forms part of our scrutiny of the outcomes of the 15th UN biodiversity conference of the parties, otherwise known as COP15. Members have received papers on the subject.

Last week, the committee heard from a panel of experts in biodiversity policy. This week we will hear from the Scottish Government on its views on the outcomes of COP15 and about how the targets that were agreed at the summit will be embedded in the new Scottish biodiversity strategy.

I welcome Lorna Slater, the Minister for Green Skills, Circular Economy and Biodiversity. Thank you for attending today. I also welcome Matthew Bird, who is biodiversity team leader, and Lisa McCann, who is head of biodiversity, from the Scottish Government. I believe that you wish to make a brief opening statement, minister.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland

Meeting date: 9 March 2023

Edward Mountain

The whole point of the system is to be fair to all parties: to the person who makes a complaint and to the person who is complained about. You have outlined the procedure that you have gone through for the person who is making the complaint and how they can find out about and in due course see the progress of their complaint through the system. That is very important, because it gives you a certain amount of strength to argue your case that you are taking each complaint seriously—I know that you do that, but it lets you prove it.

Although you have to be impartial in how you investigate a case, are you happy that you are giving advice to the person at the sharp end of the complaint about what they can do? After all, it is quite nerve wracking. I had a complaint against me. It was struck off, as it happens, but I can tell you that it is a nerve-wracking procedure because most—I would say all—³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ want to do the best they can. It is quite daunting when you get a letter, especially if you are a new MSP, which in my case I was. Do you feel that you are doing as much as you can for the person the complaint is being made about and that you are giving them the correct advice on where they can seek support and help.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland

Meeting date: 9 March 2023

Edward Mountain

I will perhaps leave it there, convener. I am sure that it is work in progress that everyone considers to be important, because the process should be fair for all—not just the complainer but the person who is complained about. I welcome your comment that you think that more could be done.