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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulation

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Edward Mountain

Thank you, Jo, for volunteering to provide that extra information. There have been one or two offers to provide further information to the committee and we look forward to receiving that in due course.

I thank all the witnesses for taking part and sharing their expertise with us. The committee will go on to discuss the evidence that they have given us later in the meeting. We will write to the Scottish Government on the common frameworks in the near future and the clerks will ensure that members see that letter before it goes.

We are all getting used to Zoom meetings, but when the technology does not work at quite the speed that we hope it to, it sometimes lets us down. I thank everyone for working through it.

I will suspend the meeting briefly to allow a change of witnesses.

10:42 Meeting suspended.  

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Standards Scotland

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Edward Mountain

We will now take evidence on Environmental Standards Scotland’s strategic plan. ESS has a statutory duty to lay its strategic plan before the Parliament, after which the Parliament must consider whether to approve it. The plan was laid on 30 September. The Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee has been designated as the lead committee to scrutinise the plan, with a view to making a short report to the whole Parliament afterwards.

I welcome back Mark Roberts, the chief executive of ESS. He is joined by Jim Martin, who is the chair, and Neil Langhorn, who is the head of strategy and analysis.

I will start the questioning with a gentle opener. I would imagine that my question is for Jim Martin and that Mark Roberts will probably provide support. Has setting up ESS been an easy process? Will you provide a brief update on how that has gone and the current position?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Edward Mountain

Good morning and welcome to the 27th meeting in 2022 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee.

I am not seeing any feed on the screens. Can we rectify that, please, before we go any further?

The first item on the agenda is consideration of whether to take in private agenda items 4 and 5, on consideration of the evidence that we will hear. Do we agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Standards Scotland

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Edward Mountain

I think that Liam Kerr has supplementary questions on the first part of that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Standards Scotland

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Edward Mountain

I will bring in Mark Roberts, because he partially answered that question before.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulation

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Edward Mountain

I have two further questions to follow up on that. You lost a significant amount of data, much of which I understand cannot be recovered. Is that delaying your ability as an agency to respond to requests for information in all the spheres in which you operate, or are you past that stage?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulation

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Edward Mountain

Is the agency responding to requests for information as quickly as you were doing prior to December 2020, or are you still behind?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulation

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Edward Mountain

I think that Liam Kerr might have some further questions on a slightly different subject, but before we come to those, I have a question for Jo Green on this subject. Sewage discharge is an interesting issue. Did SEPA lose all its records of every sewage discharge into a watercourse in Scotland? It collected that data, so do you have those records? If so, can you publish them, and do you monitor them?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Standards Scotland

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Edward Mountain

That is the end of our questions. I thank the witnesses for taking part. In particular, I thank Mark Roberts for taking part in both panels. I thank Jim Martin and Neil Langhorn for coming along for this item.

We will produce a short report for the Parliament, which will then consider a motion to approve the strategic plan.

That concludes the public part of our meeting.

11:33 Meeting continued in private until 12:04.  

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Group

Meeting date: 6 October 2022

Edward Mountain

You are convinced that you have enough time, with all your parliamentary commitments, to do it.