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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulation

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Edward Mountain

The next questions will come from Liam Kerr.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Standards Scotland

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Edward Mountain

I would like Mark Roberts to answer that question first, and then I will bring in Jim Martin to talk about how, in his position, he will push those things. I am sure that he will want to support Mark.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Standards Scotland

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Edward Mountain

Jim Martin has indicated that he would like to answer that question. I will then bring in Mark Roberts, if necessary.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Standards Scotland

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Edward Mountain

Mark, has Jim laid out the answer sufficiently well that you do not need to add to it, or do you want to add something?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Standards Scotland

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Edward Mountain

Fiona, are you happy with that answer?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulation

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Edward Mountain

Now I am feeling my age.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulation

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Edward Mountain

Perfect. The next questions are from the deputy convener, Fiona Hyslop.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulation

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Edward Mountain

The second item on the agenda is an evidence session with Scotland’s statutory environmental regulators. I refer members to the papers from the clerk and the Scottish Parliament information centre.???

Earlier this year, the committee agreed to hold a one-off evidence session with environmental regulators to take stock of environmental law and regulation post-Brexit as well as other recent developments.

I welcome our witnesses. Jo Green, acting chief executive, Scottish Environment Protection Agency, and John Kerr, operations manager of protected areas, innovation and data, NatureScot, both join us remotely. Mark Roberts, chief executive, Environmental Standards Scotland, joins us in the committee room. I thank you all for accepting our invitation to attend.

Members will ask questions in turn. It would help broadcasting staff if members could direct their question to a specific person on the panel or set out a running order for answers.

I will ask the first question, which I direct to Jo Green. At the beginning of last year, and in the course of this year, SEPA struggled with data breaches that led to immense problems with its computer systems. Could you bring us up to speed on how you have resolved that situation and whether you are now working online and are back to your previous form?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulation

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Edward Mountain

That is fine. Thank you—I will take that.

There are some questions on changing weather and extreme weather conditions. How are SEPA and NatureScot monitoring and reacting to extreme weather conditions? We seem to get massive downfalls of rain, which overload every system and watercourse, and then periods of drought, as we had this summer. My understanding is that a lot of the restrictions on water abstraction were in place because, in some cases, waters were being transferred from one catchment to another, based on legislation from 1953. Will you very briefly explain to the committee whether the system of abstraction from watercourses is operating effectively, given the extreme weather conditions? Should we review the system to take into account extreme droughts? I will bring in John Kerr and then Jo Green.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulation

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Edward Mountain

I will call Mark Ruskell to ask a specific question in a minute and I will then call other members to ask about finance, but first I want to make abundantly clear what is clearly set out in my entry in the register of members’ interests: I farm in Speyside and have an interest in a fishery in the River Spey. My questions were more general rather than being specifically about the Spey, but I want to ensure that there is no dubiety or question about this and to make it clear that that is where my knowledge comes from.