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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Edward Mountain

Our next item is evidence as part of our inquiry into a modern and sustainable ferry service for Scotland. I refer members to the papers for this item from the clerk and the Scottish Parliament information centre.???

This is the second day of taking evidence in our inquiry into Scotland’s ferry services. The inquiry aims to find out how best to secure ferry services that are future proofed and able to meet the needs of service users across our island communities. On 28 June, the committee discussed the issues with representatives from island communities. The committee also launched a call for views, which closed on 26 August.

Today we are joined by two of Scotland’s independent ferry operators, to hear their experiences of operating a commercially viable service without public subsidy. I welcome our witnesses: Helen Inkster, managing director, Pentland Ferries; and Gordon Ross, managing director, Western Ferries. Thank you both for accepting our invitation to attend the committee.

We have a series of questions for you. I will ask the easy question to put you at ease and to start us off.? What do you think that ferry users want from a well-run ferry service?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Edward Mountain

The proof will be in the pudding. Mark Ruskell has some questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Public Petitions

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Edward Mountain

When I read the paper, I struggled, as all committee members probably did, to understand whether there is an industry norm in how buses are laid out for wheelchair users. I do not know whether the lay-out allows them to face forwards or whether they have to face the rear or sideways. I would like to know whether there are safety implications to how buses are laid out, so it would be useful to find out more information on that.

As Monica Lennon suggested, it would be helpful to write to COSLA to find out how local authorities might wish to use their new powers under the 2019 act regarding bus service improvement partnerships. We could see whether they have any plans in that regard.

Given that the United Kingdom Government has confirmed that it will complete a review of the Public Service Vehicles Accessibility Regulations 2000 by 2023, we could write to the Department for Transport to highlight the concerns that the petitioner has raised about the rules. We could ask it to bear those concerns in mind and to be clear about whether there are regulations that relate to the issue.

Once we have that information, we could consider the petition in more depth, with more knowledge and understanding than we have at the moment.

Are members content for the clerks and me to work through that and for us to come back to the committee in due course?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Public Petitions

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Edward Mountain

That will be useful. I thank the petitioner for bringing the issue to our attention.

That concludes the public part of the meeting.

11:28 Meeting continued in private until 12:22.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Edward Mountain

Gordon, you commented on freight. It is interesting that, in the peak period over the summer, getting lorries on and off at the required times to meet deadlines is difficult when there is an influx of passengers. Is there scope to look at providing a freight service within the existing service to provide relief at peak times on key routes?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Edward Mountain

Helen, do you want to add anything to that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Edward Mountain

I am just interested in the fact that you are saying that there are some responsibilities about being part of the community. I welcome your comments on that.

As there are no other questions, we have come to the end of this part of the meeting. I thank both of you for coming and sharing your views and expertise. The committee will continue its look at ferries over the next few months.

I will suspend the meeting briefly to allow the witnesses to leave.

11:16 Meeting suspended.  

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Edward Mountain

As we will be reporting on the outcome of the instrument, I seek the committee’s authority to delegate to me, as convener, the authority to approve the draft and report on its publication to the Parliament. Are members content with that?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Edward Mountain

Perfect. I thank the minister and her officials for their time.

09:56 Meeting suspended.  

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Edward Mountain

The committee will report on the outcome of the instrument in due course. I invite the committee to delegate authority to me, as convener, to approve the draft of the report for publication. Is that agreed?

Members indicated agreement.