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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Edward Mountain

This is your last question, Monica. You have pushed the envelope with your questioning, and I have to bring in other committee members.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Perfect. Thank you. As there are no more questions, I move to the next item on the agenda, which is formal consideration of motion S6M-07689. I invite the minister to move the motion.

Motion moved,

That the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee recommends that the National Bus Travel Concession Schemes (Miscellaneous Amendments) (Scotland) Order 2023 [draft] be approved.鈥擺Jenny Gilruth]

Motion agreed to.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you, cabinet secretary. I have a quick question before I open up to questions from members. You said that the need for the amendment has come about because of suppliers defaulting. Could you explain how that happens and what sort of level it is at?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Edward Mountain

That is probably a good place to leave it.

We thank you and your officials very much for giving evidence, minister. I will briefly suspend the meeting to allow for a change of witnesses.

12:02 Meeting suspended.  

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Just to remind you, under 鈥淒ecision-making structure鈥, about which the report makes recommendations, it talks about

鈥渁 cluttered decision-making landscape that lacks transparency ... varying degrees of failure鈥

and

鈥淐MAL ... and Transport Scotland鈥

failing

鈥渢o discharge their respective responsibilities competently and effectively.鈥

That is fairly damning.

I want to find out whether you are comfortable with the process. Let me see whether I can do this by interpreting the jargon. The end user鈥攖he passenger鈥攆eeds into the service provider, which is the ferry operator, which feeds into the asset provider, which is CMAL, which feeds into the Government through Transport Scotland: you have told us that the two are the same. Transport Scotland feeds back to CMAL, which then stipulates what the ferry contract is going to be, as far as building the ship is concerned.

That is hardly working together. Are you comfortable with that process?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Edward Mountain

We will go back to Monica Lennon for another question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Kevin, I want to go back to the answer that you gave, in which you said that you basically feel that the system works fairly well. You will have read the 鈥淐onstruction and procurement of ferry vessels in Scotland鈥 report. Did you agree with that, in principle?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Are you making 鈥渞oot and branch鈥 changes? 鈥淩oot and branch鈥 suggests a massive change.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Jim, I understand why you want to disassociate CMAL from 801 and 802鈥

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Liam Kerr wants to come in.