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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 28 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Edward Mountain

I have a couple of questions on LEZs. In the previous session, I sat through the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee’s examination of the Transport (Scotland) Bill and LEZs. We were told that winning people over was really important, as Gary Fuller has just indicated. We were also told that the money that is collected from LEZs should be invested in the infrastructure needed to make the LEZs work more effectively. It is difficult to compare London with Aberdeen. London has an integrated transport policy, with buses and tubes that interconnect. Glasgow might be able to claim to have some of that, but I am not sure that Aberdeen can claim to have that.

Should the money that is raised from LEZs be ring fenced and put straight back into improving transport infrastructure so that we do not disadvantage people who can no longer take their cars into cities?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Edward Mountain

Paul White talked about LEZs and Euro 6 engines on buses. Is there a fear that LEZs in major conurbations that require Euro 6 bus engines will push those buses that do not meet the Euro 6 bus engine standards into rural settings, where there are not LEZs, or is that nothing to be worried about?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you very much. As with the panel from the previous evidence session, we have overrun slightly, but that shows how interested everyone has been in the subject. Thank you very much for giving your time. We will move into private session. I politely ask you to move as quickly as possible, because we have quite a lot to discuss, but thank you very much for your very valid input.

12:05 Meeting continued in private until 12:17.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Edward Mountain

I am happy to let this session run for a bit. If Gary Fuller could give a really short answer, you can then put your questions to Paul White. Gary, do not upset Monica.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Edward Mountain

Maybe you could roll your questions for Paul White into one, Monica.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Edward Mountain

There is always an expectation on the convener to manage the committee to make sure that all members get to ask the questions that they want to ask, which is difficult.

Thank you very much. It has been a really interesting session. I have found it extremely interesting, and the fact that we have overrun probably proves that everybody has found that.

I will briefly suspend the meeting until 10.50 to allow a change of panels.

10:46 Meeting suspended.  

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Edward Mountain

Monica Lennon wants to come in on this specific point.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Edward Mountain

Before we leave talking about Glasgow, could Dom Callaghan clarify something for me? There is talk that the council would like to include the M8 in the LEZ. Is that true?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Edward Mountain

I wanted to clarify that because, from my understanding of the 2019 act, special roads, such as some trunk roads and the M8, cannot be included in LEZs. I wanted to ascertain what the process would be if the council’s aspiration were to include the M8 in the LEZ. Who would have to give authority for that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Edward Mountain

The final questions for this panel come from Monica Lennon, who has waited very patiently.