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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 September 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

Mark, the committee wrote to one of the big suppliers in Scotland—Amazon—and asked whether its representatives would like to come and give evidence to the committee on the subject of redistribution but, unfortunately, they are not prepared to come and give physical evidence to the committee. They have offered written evidence, but it would have been much stronger to have heard from them in person.

I will go back to the disposal of unused goods. Is there a concern that, if legislation does not keep pace across the United Kingdom, companies in Scotland might move stuff south of the border and avoid the regulation by saying that the goods can still be used in other parts of the United Kingdom? Iain Gulland, would that concern you, or is it totally impossible for that to happen?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

I will come back to you, David, but perhaps Iain Gulland can address this question. If I were struggling to sell an item, I might be prepared to give it to a charity to use or sell. If they could not sell it, however, they would take on the obligation of disposing of it, would they not? Would that frighten charities, or would they have confidence that they could keep shifting items?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

Okay. Just before we go on to that, I want to ask a very quick question on household waste. There are 32 authorities and 32 different schemes; there are different coloured and different sized bins, and I get confused about what I am supposed to be putting in what bin depending on where I am. When I come to Edinburgh, I have no idea which bin replicates the one in my area—actually, I do not have any recycling bins in the remote area that I live in, because the council does not do recycling there. However, I get confused as to whether I should be putting things in a green bin, a blue bin or a brown bin. I think that there are yellow bins out now, too.

Should we have something simple that everyone can understand across the whole of Scotland? Should the council recycle some of its recycling bins and make them one colour so that we know what we are talking about? Iain Gulland, do you want to respond to that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

That leads us neatly on to the next questions. I believe that you have some questions, Jackie.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

When you asked the question, Jackie, they all looked in the opposite direction, so I do not think that anyone wants to answer. [Laughter.] No, that is not true. David Harley, I think that you were nodding your head.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

You have your answer. Jackie, do you have any more questions?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

We will leave it there. That was quite a long answer. I am sorry, but we are up against the clock. I reiterate that there are some things that members wanted to ask but have been unable to do so because of time restrictions. There are questions about targets and target setting that we should have got to but did not, because of my poor time management, so the clerks will follow up in writing to ask witnesses for their views.

I thank the three witnesses for their evidence today. I will briefly suspend the meeting to allow the witnesses to leave. I want members back here at 12:10 for the next item.

12:07 Meeting suspended.  

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

Are members content that the provision set out in the notification should be made in the proposed UK statutory instrument? If the answer is yes, which it appears to be, we will write to the Scottish Government to that effect, but we will include a note with a request that we be given further time to examine such instruments.

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

Our next agenda item is consideration of two instruments that have been laid under the negative procedure, which means that their provisions will come into force unless the Parliament agrees to a motion to annul them. No such motion has been lodged.

If no member wishes to comment, is the committee agreed that it does not wish to make any recommendations in relation to the instruments?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

That concludes the public part of our meeting.

12:16 Meeting continued in private until 12:47.