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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 December 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

It was a point of clarification. That is good, because—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Biodiversity Beyond National Jurisdiction Bill

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you, cabinet secretary. It is fair to say that, with LCMs, the committee keeps finding itself in the position of having to agree—or not agree—things without having the time to take evidence. The committee has written twice now to the UK Parliament about that. We wrote to the speaker only three weeks ago, I think, suggesting that, to respect devolution, we ought to be given more time and that the Parliament in Scotland should not be considered just as a rubber stamp, but should be able to actually take part in these things. There are genuinely lots of reasons why I feel uncomfortable about this, as I have done with other such bills. I think that sidelining the Scottish Parliament when we are sitting here, trying to do a job, is disrespectful.

I am glad to have got that off my chest and on the record, as it were. My question is this: what high seas activities intersect with devolved competences? Can you give me some practical examples of where there is going to be friction or where this is going to work in conjunction with what the Scottish Government does?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Biodiversity Beyond National Jurisdiction Bill

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

It is only illegal if you are signed up to the agreement. If you are not signed up to the agreement, you would not be doing anything illegal, and 62 per cent of the world is not signed up to the agreement. That is my problem.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

Good morning, and welcome to the 37th meeting in 2025 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. Our first item of business is a decision on taking items 6, 7, 8 and 9 in private. Item 6 is the consideration of today’s evidence on the Ecocide (Scotland) Bill. Item 7 is consideration of evidence on the legislative consent memorandum on the Biodiversity Beyond National Jurisdiction Bill. Item 8 is on our work programme. Item 9 relates to the contract of our adviser on climate change. Are we agreed to take all those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

Given that it has been agreed, you will know how much money is involved. How much is it?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

That sum—£515,000—is a huge amount of money for that business. You will save money on that. I assume that there will be some cost to the Auditor General in carrying out the audit. Are you making additional funds available from the money that you are saving, or are you just expecting the Auditor General to do it for free?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

How much will that be?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

Sorry, I am scratching my head at the fact that the Auditor General has agreed to take it on without any indication of what additional resources will be given to him. If I know the Auditor General, he would not do that. He is quite a sharp cookie, and will have worked out what the implications are, surely.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Biodiversity Beyond National Jurisdiction Bill

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

Mr Stewart, we leave politics at the door, and I do not think that that is an appropriate question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Biodiversity Beyond National Jurisdiction Bill

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

I have made a ruling from my position as convener. You have made your point. You have got it on the record. I do not think that it is appropriate to take it any further. If you want to challenge my position, I will suspend the meeting and I will deal with it in private. What would you like me to do?