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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 December 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

Maybe the cabinet secretary could get back to us after the meeting to let us know.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you.

As members have no other questions, we move to agenda item 3, which is the debate on motion S6M-20027. I invite the cabinet secretary to move the motion.

Motion moved,

That the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee recommends that the Companies Act 2006 (Scottish public sector companies to be audited by the Auditor General for Scotland) Order 2026 [draft] be approved.—[Fiona Hyslop]

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

The committee will report on the outcome of our debate on the draft order in due course. I invite the committee to delegate authority to me, as convener, to approve a draft of the report for publication. Is the committee happy to do that?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

Thank you. I will suspend the meeting briefly to allow a changeover of officials.

09:16 Meeting suspended.  

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Biodiversity Beyond National Jurisdiction Bill

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

Cabinet secretary, come on—I am trying to understand. You are bringing this to the committee and I am trying to understand how the committee—or how I, as a committee member—can say that we agreed to the LCM, when you are not telling me anything about it. I am as much in the dark as I was at 5 o’clock this morning, when I was rereading the papers.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

Michael Matheson has a supplementary question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Biodiversity Beyond National Jurisdiction Bill

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

I wonder whether you can help me on a wider point, cabinet secretary, so that I can understand it. There are, I think, 193 UN member states plus two observers, so there is a total of 195. There are 75 signatures to the BBNJ agreement, which means that 38 per cent of UN members have signed up to it. We are, therefore, going to be putting in force an agreement that fewer than half of the member states of the UN have agreed to.

Can you explain to me how that is going to be enforced? It is not good enough just to say that Scotland will enforce it with the actors that it has. How are we going to do it on the high seas, or are the high seas just going to remain the high seas and anyone can do whatever they want? We do not seem to have full agreement to all of this. I just want to understand what policing is going to be done. What policing do you know—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Biodiversity Beyond National Jurisdiction Bill

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

I am saying that, if you sign up to or consent to an agreement, you must know what Scotland’s obligations are. I am asking you whether you know what they are, and you are not saying anything at the moment.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

We go back to Sarah Boyack.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Biodiversity Beyond National Jurisdiction Bill

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Edward Mountain

I absolutely concur with that, but we are an armour of this Parliament, as a committee, and one of our jobs is to scrutinise the things that are put before us. It is difficult to do that if we do not have that information.