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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

The Prosper submission discusses how apprenticeships work in England, particularly with regard to the flexible workforce development fund. Given that we have different approaches across the UK, are there models, or examples within models, that we could adopt from other parts of the UK that would benefit how we deliver apprenticeships in Scotland?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

It is interesting that you raise the OECD report, which I have seen. You have had meetings at ministerial level and, I presume, official level. In those meetings, have you asked why some of that report’s conclusions and deliberations have not been included in the bill?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Another question that I put to the previous panel was whether that should have been done before now. I have heard their answers, and I accept them. Of course, we can always look back with the benefit of hindsight, but were there insurmountable blockages before that prevented the achievement of what the bill seeks to do now, or, given what you have said, Mr Boyle, about the complexities and other issues, is there a good reason why we are only doing this now, in 2025?

I think that, from what you have said so far, this is fairly straightforward. Mr Yeates does not agree with that, and certainly his board does not agree with that. Why are we looking at this now when we did not in the past?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

There will be a division.

For

Briggs, Miles (Lothian) (Con)
Rennie, Willie (North East Fife) (LD)
Ross, Douglas (Highlands and Islands) (Con)

Against

Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP)
Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP)
FitzPatrick, Joe (Dundee City West) (SNP)
Greer, Ross (West Scotland) (Green)
Kidd, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP)
Mason, John (Glasgow Shettleston) (Ind)

Abstentions

Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab)

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

The result of the division on amendment 328 is: For 2, Against 8, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 328 disagreed to.

Amendments 329, 330 and 91 not moved.

Section 35 agreed to.

After section 35

Amendment 173 not moved.

Section 36—Inspection plan

Amendment 174 not moved.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

We turn to the group entitled “Inspection plans: preparation and matters to be covered”. Amendment 331, in the name of Pam Duncan-Glancy, is grouped with amendments 175, 25, 176, 177, 334, 38, 92, 92A, 92B and 39.

I point out that amendment 39 is pre-empted by amendment 179, which was previously debated in the group entitled “Independence of the chief inspector”.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

I call Willie Rennie to wind up and to press or withdraw amendment 308.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

I remind members that, if amendment 158, in the name of Sue Webber, is agreed to, I cannot call amendments 309, 310, 159, 311, 85 or 312, due to pre-emptions.

Amendments 158, 309, 310, 159, 311 and 85 not moved.

Amendment 312 moved—[Pam Duncan-Glancy]—and agreed to.

Amendment 160 not moved.

Section 30, as amended, agreed to.

After section 30

Amendments 24 and 313 not moved.

Section 31—Meaning of “relevant educational establishment” and “excepted establishment”

Amendment 161 not moved.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Amendment 87, in the name of the cabinet secretary, is grouped with amendments 317, 318, 169 and 350.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Douglas Ross

Amendment 319, in the name of Stephen Kerr, is grouped with amendments 168, 170, 321, 322, 89, 90, 323, 171 and 358. I remind members that amendment 322 is pre-empted by amendment 88, which was previously debated in the group on safeguarding: people and buildings.