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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Douglas Ross

But you are making that assumption while not knowing what the numbers are. That is quite a brave assumption to make. Mr Wilks—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Douglas Ross

Even if they did, that would not stop schools or others over a wider local authority area continuing to do some of the other outdoor learning that already exists. Would you accept that point?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Douglas Ross

The bill would provide exactly that consistency, would it not? At the moment, some local authorities use outdoor education and others do not. The member’s bill would provide the consistency that you are looking for.

09:45  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Douglas Ross

I could understand that if the Government was against the bill. If the Government was in favour of it, there would be no requirement to even ask the question. If you are genuinely neutral, why would you not submit the financial resolution? Why would you not have had discussions about that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Douglas Ross

We are talking about £5 million across the whole of Scotland, out of a Scottish Government budget of, I think, over £40 billion.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Douglas Ross

We could compare personal reflections on that. Will you meet your manifesto commitment of renewing every play park across Scotland in this parliamentary session?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Douglas Ross

Thank you. As no other member wishes to comment, does the committee agree that it does not wish to make any recommendations in relation to the five instruments?

Members indicated agreement.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Douglas Ross

What are your views and impression of the evidence that the committee has received?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Douglas Ross

Given that, why do you still need the grace period? I find it quite strange and, frankly, unbelievable that we are four years in before getting to this point. Your Government published its response to the consultation in June 2019, when the need for a mandatory scheme received overwhelming stakeholder support. You knew from the very beginning—once the consultation had been launched and you had looked at those responses—that that element of it had received overwhelming support. Yet, five years on from that consultation, we are just getting around to putting that into the legislation. That seems to be a very long period of time to have elapsed.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Douglas Ross

So, there were no issues at all with the IT system. Is it acceptable and the norm for the Government to take more than four years to set up an IT system? Is that what you are saying?