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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

“Higher History Review 2024â€

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Douglas Ross

Did you ask the outgoing chief executive if she had any knowledge of that before you issued the statement?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

“Higher History Review 2024â€

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Douglas Ross

You are the communications director and you heard that evidence but you did not speak to the chief executive to ask whether she was aware of that when she was around in 2020.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

“Higher History Review 2024â€

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Douglas Ross

Who did you ask on the day? A request came in to you from a national paper on the day that the committee heard evidence. Given that, as Ms Rogers has said, you were not in position in 2020, who did you go to for historical guidance on the issue?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

“Higher History Review 2024â€

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Douglas Ross

We have spoken a lot about 2024’s higher history exam and its fallout, but the history issues go back further than that.

I am sure that you, Ms Rodgers, will be aware of the letter that was sent on 24 February 2019 by 10 national 5 history core team members. They said that they were concerned that a culture had recently developed within their subject area whereby

“any legitimate questioning of SQA policy and procedures will result in contracts not being renewed.â€

As chair, you are dealing with the issue and its impact on current pupils and staff. However, it seems to those of us who have not been heavily involved in the issue for many years that it goes back far further.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Douglas Ross

That concludes consideration of that group of instruments.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

“Higher History Review 2024â€

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Douglas Ross

Okay. I appreciate that.

I thank you all very much for your time. You said that you would come back to us on a number of points—Ms Rogers and Ms Stewart certainly said that. If I get permission, I will share some of the testimony that we received, particularly emails, because I think that you have been troubled by some of the testimony that you have heard.

I have taken at face value what you said about scrutiny making for something better, Ms Rogers, and I hope that we have something better after our scrutiny today. It has been an intense session, but I think that you have all handled it extremely well. It has been longer than we anticipated, but that shows that there is a great deal of interest in the area. We saw that when we heard from the former chief executive, SATH and the cabinet secretary and we have now seen it with you.

It is not for me alone to decide, but I think that we would like to see you back at committee, Ms Rogers, to discuss wider issues to do with the forthcoming legislation and the work of the SQA.

I thank you all for your time today. I will suspend the meeting for about 10 minutes.

11:28 Meeting suspended.  

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Douglas Ross

Welcome back. The next item on our agenda is subordinate legislation. The committee will take evidence from the Minister for Children, Young People and The Promise, Natalie Don-Innes, and her officials, regarding several instruments related to the Disclosure (Scotland) Act 2020. The minister will also move motions to approve the instruments.

I welcome Natalie Don-Innes, who is the Minister for Children, Young People and The Promise; Gareth Wilks, who is the director of policy and engagement, and Laura Robertson, who is the deputy chief executive, both from Disclosure Scotland; and Susan Bonellie, who is a solicitor from the Scottish Government legal directorate.

I invite the minister to speak to the draft instruments.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Douglas Ross

As members have no comments to make, I invite the minister to move motion S6M-16126.

Motion moved,

That the Education, Children and Young People Committee recommends that the Regulated Roles with Children and Adults (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 2025 [draft] be approved.—[Natalie Don-Innes]

Motion agreed to.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Douglas Ross

The committee must now produce a report on the draft instrument. Are members content to delegate responsibility to me, as convener, to agree the report on behalf of the committee?

Members indicated agreement.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Douglas Ross

The next affirmative instrument to be considered is the draft Disclosure (Scotland) Act 2020 (List A and B Offences) Amendment Regulations 2025. Do members have any questions or comments on the instrument?

Members indicated disagreement.