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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Do you need an SSI in order to have those conversations?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Douglas Ross

I am sorry, cabinet secretary. My question is whether any of those orders were on pieces of legislation that the committee’s stage 1 report said would have to be heavily amended. That is the difference here.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Can we—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Douglas Ross

You were making a very clear statement—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you very much, cabinet secretary. I will read from page 5 of the 2016-17 programme for government. It says:

“It is the defining mission of this Government to close the poverty-related attainment gap. We intend to make significant progress within the lifetime of this Parliament and substantially eliminate the gap over the course of the next decade. That is a yardstick by which the people of Scotland can measure our success.”

Using that yardstick, what progress, if any, do you believe was made on that defining mission to close the poverty-related attainment gap over the course of the 2016 to 2021 parliamentary session, and was that progress significant?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Douglas Ross

The result of the division is: For 7, Against 0, Abstentions 3.

Motion agreed to,

That the Education, Children and Young People Committee recommends that the Public Appointments and Public Bodies etc. (Scotland) Act 2003 (Treatment of Qualifications Scotland as Specified Authority) Order 2025 [draft] be approved.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Welcome back. The next agenda item is to take evidence on the Scottish attainment challenge as part of our post-inquiry scrutiny. We will hear from Jenny Gilruth, the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills; David Leng, the head of the Scottish attainment challenge at the Scottish Government; Alison Taylor, the deputy director for improvement, attainment and wellbeing at the Scottish Government; and Dr David Gregory, the strategic director of the Scottish attainment challenge at Education Scotland. Welcome to you all.

Cabinet secretary, would you like to make an opening statement?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Douglas Ross

I allowed you to give the full context, which you wished to do, but I am asking you this question. We have in front of us the 2016-17 programme for government, which said that in the lifetime of that Parliament, the SNP Government would make “significant progress” in closing the poverty-related attainment gap. You accept that the Government did not make significant progress—is that correct?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Douglas Ross

The second point on page 5 of that programme for government says that you would

“substantially eliminate the gap over the course of the next decade.”

We are in year 9 of that decade. Have you substantially eliminated the gap?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Douglas Ross

As you come on to talk about that, will you answer the question with a yes or no? Has the Government substantially eliminated the gap over the course of the decade?