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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Douglas Ross

The committee must now produce a report on the order. Is the committee content to delegate responsibility to me, as convener, to agree the report on behalf of the committee?

Members indicated agreement.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Significant progress?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Douglas Ross

So, you accept that it was not the significant progress that you anticipated in the programme for government.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Douglas Ross

In that context, will you accept that you did not make significant progress?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Douglas Ross

They are actually the SNP’s words from the programme for government.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Douglas Ross

Most of them would have supported that back in 2016-17, when it was originally said.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Douglas Ross

When you discussed context, you mentioned global events such as Covid and your view on the impacts of, I presume, UK Government decisions in relation to those events. Can any blame be assigned to the Scottish Government for not making more progress on those ambitions?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Douglas Ross

That is what I am asking you. Have you identified any issues with how the Scottish Government, your department and your predecessors have sought to tackle the poverty-related attainment gap? I think that we all agree that it is still far too wide.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Douglas Ross

I do not want to interrupt, but there are members of the committee who want to ask you about PEF, so I want to leave that to them, if that is okay. We will bring Ms Taylor in at that point. I just do not want to have members criticising me for maybe asking their questions, but if your comments are not directly related to that—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge: Post-inquiry Scrutiny

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Douglas Ross

I know that Ms Haughey wants to ask about that, but what you have said is very useful.

Cabinet secretary, you have provided a lot of context and I think that there is now some acceptance that there are international, UK and Scottish issues. Almost a decade ago, however, your Government said that significant progress on closing the gap would be made in the 2016 to 2021 session of Parliament and that you would substantially eliminate the gap over the course of this decade, of which we are now in the ninth year. The final sentence was:

“That is a yardstick by which the people of Scotland can measure our success.â€

How should the people of Scotland measure the Scottish National Party Government’s success, or otherwise, in reducing the poverty-related attainment gap, given everything that you have said about the wider context and about how the gap between the most-deprived areas and the least-deprived areas has stubbornly remained wide?