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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 August 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Clare Adamson

Welcome back to the committee again, cabinet secretary. We lost you briefly. Do you want to continue with your answer to Mr Ruskell’s question?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Clare Adamson

I have a quick final question, cabinet secretary. The committee undertook significant work on the original REUL bill, and one of our major concerns was about its impact on other organisations, such as animal welfare organisations, that are trying to navigate their way through it. We were also concerned about Scottish Parliament subject committees, which will also be interested in what is happening and want to engage with the process. Although I note that you said that the removal of the sunset clause is a move in the right direction, do the timescales and the approach alleviate any of the pressures on business and third sector organisations, and do they affect the ability of the Scottish Parliament to engage in the scrutiny process?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Clare Adamson

I thank the cabinet secretary and his officials for attending. We now move into private session.

11:21 Meeting continued in private until 11:31.  

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

National Outcomes

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Clare Adamson

It is worth pointing out that, as convener, I was with the Presiding Officer at the Nordic Council this year, and the committee has tried to engage—to look north as well as to Europe—post-Brexit.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

National Outcomes

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Clare Adamson

A number of members have supplementary questions, I hope. I am conscious that Mr Ruskell has not come in yet. Do you want to come in now, Mark, or are you asking about a different topic?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Clare Adamson

Our third agenda item is an evidence session on the supplementary legislative consent memorandum on the Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill. We are joined remotely by Angus Robertson, Cabinet Secretary for the Constitution, External Affairs and Culture, and, from the Scottish Government, Elliot Robertson, head of the EU secretariat; Chris Nicholson, solicitor and head of the constitutional reform and external affairs branch; and Greig Walker, retained EU law management programme lead. I invite the cabinet secretary to make a brief opening statement.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

National Outcomes

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Clare Adamson

I will turn briefly to the discourse on international offices and missions and will direct my question to Professor Jackson. We prepared a consensual report on the reach of international offices that was very positive. In its submission, the British Council said that it would welcome more offices being opened around the world. The political discourse in the chamber is very difficult—there have been questions about the costs of offices and whether they are a waste of money, and there have been suggestions that they are pretend embassies. Mr Cleverly has intervened by writing to Mr Robertson, and Mr Robertson has asked him to withdraw any indication that those offices are being misused or that the Scottish Government should be curtailed in its use of them. You mentioned that that would almost be unheard of in Canada. Are there other examples of sub-state Governments being at odds with their national Government? Is that not unusual?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Clare Adamson

Thank you, cabinet secretary.

The UK Government has stated that

“The UK Government and the devolved Governments agree that where common frameworks are operating they are the right mechanism for discussing REUL reform in the areas they cover”

and that when

“using the powers in the Bill, we will use common frameworks to engage with the devolved Governments on decision-making across the UK.”—[Official Report, House of Lords, 8 March 2023; c 813.]

Do you agree with that statement, cabinet secretary?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Clare Adamson

The screen has frozen, so we will suspend the meeting briefly.

10:26 Meeting suspended.  

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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

National Outcomes

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Clare Adamson

Under item 2, the committee will begin to take evidence as part of our inquiry into the Scottish Government’s national outcomes and indicators relating to international policy. We are delighted to be joined this morning by Professor Stephen Gethins, professor of practice in international relations at the University of St Andrews; Professor Juliet Kaarbo, professor of foreign policy at the University of Edinburgh; and Professor Peter Jackson, chair in global security at the University of Glasgow. Thank you all for your written submissions, which were very helpful.

On that note, we will move straight to questions from the committee. I will ask the first question. Professor Kaarbo, your submission suggests an emphasis on strategic narratives, statecraft and reputation. Could you elaborate on where Scotland is now and where the Scottish Government might take us in the near future?