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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 7 August 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market

Meeting date: 2 December 2021

Clare Adamson

I move to questions from the committee.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market

Meeting date: 2 December 2021

Clare Adamson

We may come back to that. I do not want to take up the whole time. I will ask Mr Leheny a question. In your paper, you state:

“UK food produce is now treated as 3rd country status when entering the Single Market which has created a huge burden on GB exporters.â€

Can you expand on what the impact has been on food producers in Scotland?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market

Meeting date: 2 December 2021

Clare Adamson

We had a couple of brief breaks in transmission during your response. I think that we have the gist of what you were saying, but you might want to come back and clarify. I think that we are okay in terms of understanding your point.

You mentioned some specific examples, which is always very helpful. There has been a lot of talk about farmers and seed potatoes in Scotland. That issue seems to be in a negotiation stage. Could you give us some specific examples of the types of products that may end up in this situation of uncertainty and, as things go forward, things that might happen to other goods?

Are you hearing us? That question was for Dr Melo Araujo.

I do not think that he can hear us. I am very sorry, but we are probably finished with our questions anyway.

I thank both our witnesses for their contribution and for the helpful briefings to the committee prior to the meeting. I will suspend the meeting for a brief break. Thank you.

10:01 Meeting suspended.  

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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market

Meeting date: 2 December 2021

Clare Adamson

Good morning and welcome to the 12th meeting of the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee. The committee is currently conducting an inquiry into the United Kingdom internal market. The aim of the inquiry is to consider the implications of the UK internal market for Scotland, including how devolution will work going forward. We have two panels this morning. In our first panel, we will hear from Seamus Leheny, Northern Ireland policy manager, Logistics UK; and Billy Melo Araujo, senior lecturer, school of law, Queen’s University Belfast. I welcome everyone to the meeting this morning.

We will move straight to questions and I have an opening question. Dr Melo Araujo, I will begin with your paper. You state that, even if Scotland continues to align with European Union law, it

“will not, however, remove regulatory barriers faced by Scottish business exporting to NI.â€

Can you explain to the committee what that would mean for the competitiveness of Scottish businesses wishing to trade in Northern Ireland?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market

Meeting date: 2 December 2021

Clare Adamson

Mr Leheny, do you have any comments to make in response to Sarah Boyack’s questions? For example, do you have anything to say about the uncertainty that has been created?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market

Meeting date: 2 December 2021

Clare Adamson

I will ask a final question of Dr Melo Araujo. You mentioned the notice period for withdrawing from the TCA. Mr Leheny said earlier that what business is looking for is stability and certainty about what is happening, but the proposal to perhaps invoke article 16 would lead to more uncertainty.

Ursula von der Leyen said that the EU has a ladder of sanctions up to withdrawal from the TCA. I am trying to understand whether there is any notice period for some of the sanctions that the EU might impose, or could businesses find themselves having to respond to changes in a matter of days?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market

Meeting date: 2 December 2021

Clare Adamson

On that note, I bring the session to an end. I thank all the witnesses for their attendance and for their helpful submissions to the committee.

Meeting closed at 11:22.  

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market

Meeting date: 2 December 2021

Clare Adamson

I ask Professor Hunt and then Professor McEwen to comment.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market

Meeting date: 2 December 2021

Clare Adamson

I will roll two issues into one question, because we are up against time. The internal market act did not receive consent from the Scottish Parliament, and I believe that a judicial review is on-going in Wales. How precarious is the situation, depending on the outcome of that court case?

We have talked a lot about the interparliamentary forum and ways of scrutinising. My understanding is that we have the power to scrutinise Scottish Government ministers’ actions in these areas but, as soon as executive power is used in a devolved area, we are not able even to call a UK Government minister to appear before a scrutinising committee of the Scottish Parliament. Should arrangements relating to security and transparency in such areas be formalised, perhaps through a change in the law? Even the interparliamentary forum is not yet a formal arrangement between the Parliaments. How could arrangements be firmed up to ensure that there is absolute certainty that the devolved nations can scrutinise in such areas?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market

Meeting date: 2 December 2021

Clare Adamson

Does Professor Weatherill want to come in?