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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Clare Adamson

Our second item is our final evidence-taking session on the second phase of our inquiry into the review of the European Union-United Kingdom trade and co-operation agreement. Our witnesses are Angus Robertson, Cabinet Secretary for Constitution, External Affairs and Culture; and, from the Scottish Government, Elliot Robertson, head of EU secretariat, external affairs; Rachel Sutherland, deputy director of population and migration; and Dr Frank Möschler, head of research, Scottish Government EU office, who joins us from Brussels. I give a warm welcome to you all.

I invite the cabinet secretary to make an opening statement.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Clare Adamson

Mr Kerr, this is veering into the education aspect of these things. It is not relevant to—

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Clare Adamson

I am going to move on. I will come back to you if we still have time, but other members wish to come in.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Clare Adamson

Thank you. I think Dr Möschler wants to come in.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Clare Adamson

I want to talk about Erasmus exchanges with educational institutions. I attended New College Lanarkshire’s celebration of its international work. It is involved with more than 20 countries through outreach in delivering nursing and dental training, and lecturers are given the opportunity to get involved. We used to also have the Comenius teacher exchange, which was run through the British Council. How important are exchange programmes for Scotland’s education sector, and for further and higher education?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Clare Adamson

I thank the cabinet secretary and his officials. I thank Dr Möschler, in particular, for joining us from the Brussels office. The Brussels office was very helpful to the committee on our recent visit to the PPA, and I thank them once again for that.

11:04 Meeting continued in private until 11:06.  

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Clare Adamson

Cabinet secretary, it would be helpful if you wrote to the committee about that, and we can share it with Mr Bibby.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Clare Adamson

Only if you are representing the witnesses’ contribution.

I want to ask a supplementary question on the issue, just before I bring Mr Kerr back in. The most recent trade figures have shown that the food and drinks industry’s exports to Europe have reduced by two thirds since the implementation of Brexit. The industry feels that that is partly because the Europeans are not subject to the same pressures as our producers, because of the lack of border controls. If the border controls were implemented, do you think that there would be an industry swell lobbying the EU side of these negotiations to have a better deal, given that those producers would feel the same pressures that have resulted in two thirds of our trade being lost?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Clare Adamson

Thank you, cabinet secretary. I will start the questions. In the annexe of your letter to the committee, you say:

“The lack of progress on a number of key policy priorities is clearly disappointing”.

You go on to describe the limits of the specialised committee process. What are your expectations for the forthcoming UK-EU summit, the TCA Partnership Council meeting and the next round of the specialist committees, and what would you like to see done differently?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Clare Adamson

Thank you. I would also like to ask about mobility, which you mentioned, and, in particular, youth mobility. We recently heard from young people who face the challenges of studying in the EU outside the Erasmus+ scheme. We also heard from representatives of our culture sector about the impact on touring artists.

What would you like to say to the young Scots who feel that their life experiences are being damaged at the moment? How would they benefit if the UK were to rejoin the creative Europe programme?

09:45