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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 24 June 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 10 January 2023

Liz Smith

Does the ethical standards commission require 7.4 additional full-time equivalent staff because the workload has significantly increased in the commissioner鈥檚 office? If that is the case, by how much has it increased? That, too, is a matter of public record. One of important things in relation to commissioners is public accountability for where the money is spent; that is probably the commissioner that has the highest profile in terms of being held to account by the public. Will you give us a little bit more detail about that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 10 January 2023

Liz Smith

I take your point about some of that but, notwithstanding the perceived advantages that people in Scotland have, if they are asked to pay higher levels of tax than elsewhere, they will look for effective delivery of public services. If we look at the NHS, schools or transport and if we listen to some of the comments from yesterday, what is additional in the quality of delivery of public services that merits those higher tax rates?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 10 January 2023

Liz Smith

However, Mr Swinney, people do not find it easy to see their general practitioner. They are finding that there are cuts to bus services, some train services or services that are provided to our islands. A lot of things add up to concerns about the delivery of public services. That is reflected in some of the comments that were made yesterday.

I will ask you about one other aspect of the tax changes: the change to the additional dwelling supplement. The Scottish Government forecasts that we will get extra revenue from that tax change. Has it done any modelling about that change in light of the number of people who say that they might leave the market for the additional dwelling supplement as a result of the rent freeze?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 10 January 2023

Liz Smith

Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 10 January 2023

Liz Smith

I very much agree with what was said in the previous conversation. It would be irresponsible if we were seen to be feathering our own nests.

I return to the issue of commissioners, because it is vital that the public have complete transparency on what their money is being used for. In your note to us, you mention that the additional money that is being sought by the Scottish Human Rights Commission is about reorganisation and staffing structure, whereas the money for the ethical standards commission is about getting an additional 7.4 full-time-equivalent staff. Do we have more information about what the new structure is for the SHRC, and do you know what the 7.4 FTE staff in the ethical standards commission will be doing?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 10 January 2023

Liz Smith

However, it is not correct to say that there was not a single penny more from the UK Government.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 10 January 2023

Liz Smith

Is the Scottish Fiscal Commission wrong to say that there are those Barnett consequentials?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Liz Smith

That is helpful. I am sure that we will have a look at that evidence.

A lot of economic commentators have said that Scotland needs more higher-paid jobs to help with labour market flexibility, to improve productivity and to ensure that we get a better tax take. The committee is interested in finding ways in which Scotland can make best use of all its talents and ensure that more people go into the sort of higher-paid work that would benefit the economy hugely. It would be helpful to hear the panel鈥檚 reflections on that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Liz Smith

I return to the question of improving productivity and wellbeing, which is one of the central themes of your research. Earlier, my colleague Michelle Thomson asked you about where we can get the biggest bangs for the buck when it comes to improving productivity, and you provided a couple of examples.

I wish to develop the point a little further. We are in a very difficult situation across the UK, including Scotland, because a sizeable number of people, particularly those in their 50s and 60s, are coming out of the labour market. That will obviously have significant implications and give rise to difficulties further down the line with regard to productivity and tax take. I think that Professor Muscatelli talked earlier about skills and labour market flexibilities. What, in your opinion, do we have to do to drive greater flexibility in the labour market, while ensuring that we retain more people in the market than might be the case now?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Liz Smith

I assume, therefore, that you would like the funding to follow that priority area, because it would be helpful to spend more money on innovation and the university sector, for example, and on ensuring that we drive towards those kinds of productive industries of the future.