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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 24 June 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Liz Smith

It is perhaps more a question of timing.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Liz Smith

I saw an interesting article about the possibility of allowing the over-55s some tax relief. They might be more encouraged to stay in the workplace if they had some tax relief on the extra savings that they would make during that period of working when they were older. Might such financial incentives help?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Liz Smith

That is an interesting answer. Is an aspect of this about helping employers to understand that they have a big role to play in making their workplaces more attractive from both a working practices angle and a financial angle?

A huge number of entrepreneurs are in the private sector, where the Government has to be careful about intervening too much. What can the Scottish Government do to encourage employers to think carefully about how attractive their workplace is, when the alternative is people staying at home? Is that a big part of the issue? That has been suggested in some of the evidence that we have taken.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Liz Smith

I am sure that the answer is yes, but I assume that the Government is also looking at transport policy and housing policy, which are all part of making work more attractive to people.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Liz Smith

Would you like to see the framework properly inflation related?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Liz Smith

When we had the academic panel in, there was a lot of discussion of the problem about forecasting. The witnesses were quite willing to accept that there is a difficulty with forecasting when one Government is looking at two sets of figures and the other Government is looking at one set of figures. Can we do something about that in the next fiscal framework, or is the situation just a fact of life?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Liz Smith

Good.

I am sure that we will have the political debate on the fiscal framework at a much later time. However, an issue on which I think that the committee is agreed has been brought to us鈥攏amely, the difficulties caused by the gap or lag in the timescales for the Office for Budget Responsibility forecasts and the Scottish Fiscal Commission forecasts.

The Scottish Government has to be at the behest of both the OBR and the Scottish Fiscal Commission, whereas the Treasury requires the OBR forecasts to make its policy statement. Can that complication be resolved? Can we get over that problem? Would you like to see it resolved as we move from the fiscal framework that was introduced in 2016 to the framework that will be introduced in 2024, or whenever it happens?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 7 February 2023

Liz Smith

Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate legislation

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Liz Smith

I understand the need to raise revenue, particularly in the current difficult economic circumstances. I also understand that you believe that the policy has one principle behind it鈥攖o help first-time buyers. I might not agree with that, but I understand the context for the policy.

However, I agree with the concerns that have been raised by the convener, Michelle Thomson and Daniel Johnson, who have made it clear that we do not have much evidence on behavioural change. There is an expectation, even on the part of the Scottish Fiscal Commission, that there will be some behavioural change. Michelle Thomson was right to suggest to you that, in order to be absolutely clear that the Scottish Government is on the right track here, we need to have some evidence on behavioural change.

You have said that what the Government is doing needs to be considered in the macroeconomic context. That is true. One of the factors in that macroeconomic context is that the Scottish working population is not as big relative to the total population as we would like it to be from the point of view of improving productivity and so on. To what extent are you comfortable that the policy effects of the tax change will not have a detrimental effect on the mobility of the working population because of the difficulties to do with the housing stock? Specifically in relation to populations in rural areas, where we have pretty serious issues with housing, are you convinced that the increase in the ADS will not have a detrimental effect?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate legislation

Meeting date: 17 January 2023

Liz Smith

I accept that the tax will raise revenue鈥攖hat is clear from the evidence that we have had so far. I will come back to the issue that Michelle Thomson asked about. The assessment of what is likely to happen in the housing market as a result of this change is that it will have potentially have quite serious effects. Obviously, we have the evidence that has been presented to the committee and we also have strong anecdotal evidence that people are withdrawing from the market.

My question is to ask the Scottish Government about the potential detrimental effects of the removal from the market of quite a number of landlords who have extra dwellings that can support the economy. I come back to the point about the rural economy because, in some cases, there is a danger that, if too much of that activity comes out of the market, not only could it have a damaging effect on the mobility of the working population and repopulating difficult areas for the rural economy, it could have a considerable effect on tourism. We cannot afford to have any detrimental effects on those aspects of the economy. What evidence are you considering on those aspects of the economy? Finally, what discussions have you had with the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Housing and Local Government over those likely effects?