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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 June 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Liz Smith

That is helpful鈥攊n a way.

Co-design can, in principle, have a strong case behind it, as you are engaging with the stakeholders who are collectively making representations to the Government about what the right process might be, but do you accept that, because that process is on-going, it is exceptionally difficult to come to any accurate assessment of what the costs are going to be?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Liz Smith

But is it not the case that co-design is on-going?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Liz Smith

So, if co-design is on-going, and if further representations are made to the Scottish Government about possible changes, does that not have implications for future costs?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Liz Smith

Sorry, but can we go back a little bit? In effect, you are saying that, up until this point, the co-design has made the Government have a bit of a rethink about the bill. It has made three substantial changes, two of which involve reducing the costs, in that there will be no transfer of local authority staff or assets and no new care boards. That saves a lot of costs. Should co-design be on-going, and should the outcome of the further co-design be that more substantial changes are suggested, does that not have implications for the costs?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Liz Smith

But what do you think the on-going discussions on co-design will be about if there are no suggestions of further substantial changes?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Liz Smith

I understand that. The key point here, in relation to what you have just said, is that how the bill is implemented surely has a direct relationship to cost.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Liz Smith

But those are not related to future co-design.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Liz Smith

I will leave it there, convener.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Replacing European Union Structural Funds

Meeting date: 18 January 2024

Liz Smith

Good morning, secretary of state. When you were last at committee, back in February 2022, Michelle Thomson, Daniel Johnson and I all asked you about the objective analysis that goes into the decision-making process on who gets money and who does not. On that occasion, you said:

鈥淚 am absolutely confident that our assessment is objective.鈥濃擺Official Report, Finance and Public Administration Committee, 24 February 2022; c 12.]

You also said that you would come back to the committee to explain if we had any concerns about that objectivity and whether people understood the process by which awards were made. Since that time, you will be pleased to hear, we have had some very complimentary comments about the process鈥攊n the past year, 13 local authorities said that they were very pleased with it. However, some local authorities have not been successful and they are slightly critical about the fact that there is not sufficient transparency about who gets what and who does not. Can you update us on where we are with that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Replacing European Union Structural Funds

Meeting date: 18 January 2024

Liz Smith

When it comes to those local authorities that are disappointed and which have not been successful, is there a process by which they can be made fully aware of where the criteria were not met and why their bid failed? Do they understand exactly why their bid was not successful?

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