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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Liz Smith

That is a very helpful answer. Thank you very much.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Liz Smith

Good morning. This is a difficult question but, nonetheless, it is an important one. Mr Hamilton, it picks up on your comment that the development of the commissioner landscape has been organic over time. Obviously, some have regulatory functions, some have advocacy functions and some have complaints at their heart, so they are all quite different. Do you have any advice to us about the criteria that should be used to decide whether a commissioner’s office is being efficient in delivering what it has been asked to do?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Liz Smith

I asked the previous panel this question and I know that it is a difficult one. Are there specific criteria that we can use to discover whether what you are delivering is effective and good value for money? I know that that is difficult, but this finance committee has to look at the outcomes. What do we have to do to measure how successful you are?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Liz Smith

The Scottish Biometrics Commissioner, on the previous panel, said that he was slightly surprised that, given that he had submitted seven reports, he was questioned only once. As children’s commissioner, do you feel that you are being scrutinised well enough?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Liz Smith

You have obviously got a very high-profile commissioner job. As the convener hinted at, it is not one of the ones that people would seek to undermine, given the good work that happens there. Do you feel, with that high-profile nature, that the scrutiny tends to increase? Is it your view that that is what happens and that for other commissioners, who are not quite so much in the public eye, that scrutiny process is not as strong?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 16 April 2024

Liz Smith

Good morning, Ms MacMillan. You have made it very clear that you had a specific remit, which was about advocacy for those with a disability and autism and in relation to their vulnerability. Nonetheless, the title of your report from March 2023 is “The role of commissions and commissioners in Scotland and the UK”. Does it strike you that your very specific remit does not quite fit with that title?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 16 April 2024

Liz Smith

May I just pursue that? With all due respect, this committee is looking at the big picture. The committee needs to do that from the perspective of getting an overview and carrying out scrutiny, but it needs to look at the cost aspect, too. Therefore, when I see the title of that report, I think that it is exactly what the committee wants to look at—the role of commissions and commissioners in Scotland and the impact that the UK might have on that.

The issue that the committee has to look at is commissioners who have different roles. You have been very clear that your research relates to advocacy for one particular group, but there are other commissioners, some of whom handle complaints, some of whom have a regulatory role and some of whom have an investigatory role. The committee wants some idea of the whole picture. With regard to your specific remit, do you have any concern that there is no overall strategy for that bigger picture and what it might be?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 16 April 2024

Liz Smith

I am sorry, but I did not say that—I did not say that at all. What I am saying is that it is only part of the bigger picture.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 16 April 2024

Liz Smith

—and what I am asking in relation to the title that you presented the committee with, which is the issue that we want to delve into, is whether your specific role would raise questions about the overall strategy for commissioners in general. I am asking whether that came up, either in your own research or with the people to whom you spoke.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 16 April 2024

Liz Smith

I fully understand that you have been examining one specific aspect; indeed, you have said so several times now. However, have questions not been raised about the overall role of commissioners and their respective staff and how they are serving Scotland? Has that not come through your research at all?