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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 June 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Financial Memorandum for the Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Liz Smith

You are saying that, in theory, it should all work well and that COSLA has statements and commitments that everybody should be abiding by. If it is not working well, are there some local authorities that are not adhering to those basic principles? Is that the problem?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Financial Memorandum for the Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Liz Smith

I am very interested in that point, because I would have thought that the guidance from the inspectorate would flag up to the other local authorities that are not doing so well that that is a key point. In your opinion, are some local authorities not taking on board that advice from the inspectorate?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Financial Memorandum for the Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Liz Smith

I am making a general point because the legislation covers different age groups. However, in relation to the offer to two-year-olds in particular, there is there is more of a problem. Our difficulty as a committee鈥攊t was obviously Audit Scotland鈥檚 problem in 2020, too鈥攊s that there is not sufficient good-quality data to assess exactly what is going on here and why there may be a downturn in particular age groups, or why in some cases parents are not taking up the offer to which they are entitled.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Financial Memorandum for the Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

Liz Smith

In an earlier answer, you made it clear that you thought that each local authority should be able to provide a lot of data on exactly where its information is being drawn from and how well it is achieving its policy. Is it COSLA鈥檚 understanding that that data will come from 32 different local authorities and that it will be collected and then properly analysed, or are you saying that it is the job of COSLA and some other institutions to collect that data? That is the key point.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Economic and Fiscal Forecasts, Resource Spending Review and Medium-term Financial Strategy

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Liz Smith

If extra money that you are not currently expecting became available to you, would universities benefit from it?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Economic and Fiscal Forecasts, Resource Spending Review and Medium-term Financial Strategy

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Liz Smith

I understand that. I am asking you to tell us鈥攂ecause it is important, as you have acknowledged鈥攊f, as you rightly point out, those changes have all taken place, what figure are you using for the black hole in the public finances?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Economic and Fiscal Forecasts, Resource Spending Review and Medium-term Financial Strategy

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Liz Smith

It is not a budget, cabinet secretary鈥攜ou said that originally. It is not a budget that you are producing.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Economic and Fiscal Forecasts, Resource Spending Review and Medium-term Financial Strategy

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Liz Smith

Let me put it another way. What statistics have you used to make the projections and policy choices that you have set out to the committee?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Economic and Fiscal Forecasts, Resource Spending Review and Medium-term Financial Strategy

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Liz Smith

However, you have to make choices in relation to where you think the Scottish economy can improve. You have to think about the receipts that you will get from tax revenues and from other areas of expenditure, and about where cutbacks have to be made. You have spelled out some of the cutbacks. What information can you give to the universities sector that proves that it deserves what will probably be an 8 per cent real-terms cut over the period that is covered by the financial strategy?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Economic and Fiscal Forecasts, Resource Spending Review and Medium-term Financial Strategy

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Liz Smith

Cabinet secretary, I would like to begin by seeking one piece of clarification, if I may. Last week, during your statement in the chamber, and at First Minister鈥檚 questions, we raised the Scottish Fiscal Commission data that is in figures 4.3 and 4.7, which made a projected estimate for 2026-27 of a 拢3.5 billion hole in public finances. You seem to be implying that that was not a correct estimate from the Scottish Fiscal Commission data. Why is it not correct?