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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 August 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Graham Simpson

Do you agree that it is not sustainable? We cannot be in the situation every single year of boards saying, “We can’t make ends meet. You will have to give us more money,” can we?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Graham Simpson

I have mentioned GPs, so I will ask about them first. General practice is where people enter the system—they might end up in hospital, but GPs are their first port of call, so it is really important that the GP system, if I can call it that, works effectively. However, we often hear reports that people cannot get to see their GP because of the booking systems that some—not all—GPs operate.

I have done a mini survey of GPs in my area, Lanarkshire, and there are different models. For example, if you want a same-day appointment with my GP, you have to phone up at 8 am, and it is really difficult if you want to book for, say, the next week. Having to phone at 8 am puts people off. It certainly puts me off—because I am working, I wonder whether I will ever get to see my GP again. It is really difficult.

Do you have any data that shows what is happening out there with GPs?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Graham Simpson

Is that because you do not know the answer in this case?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Graham Simpson

All I am asking is whether, in that case, the NHS would have to pay a sum to retain the use of Wishaw general.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Graham Simpson

I urge you to look at them—I think that I saw them on the BBC, so they should not be too difficult to find. You should have that sort of data.

You have mentioned technology. NHS England has an app that people can use to book an appointment with a GP, get repeat prescriptions and do other things. Why do we not have a similar app here?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Graham Simpson

Okay. I will very much be looking forward to that.

The issue of private finance initiative contracts came up in a previous evidence session, so you will be expecting to be asked about it and will, I hope, be prepared for these questions. We know that a number of PFI contracts in the health service are due to expire. I will just run through them. The contract for Tippethill hospital in Bathgate expires next year; the contract for New Craigs hospital in NHS Highland expires in 2026; the contracts for the Carseview centre in NHS Tayside and Larkfield in NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde expire in 2027; the contract for the Royal infirmary of Edinburgh expires in 2028; and the contracts for Ellen’s Glen house in NHS Lothian and—in my patch, and the convener’s patch—Wishaw general in NHS Lanarkshire expire in 2029. What happens when the contracts expire? Do you have to pay a sum of money in all those cases to retain the facilities?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Graham Simpson

Let me take just one of them—Wishaw general, the contract for which ends in 2029. What happens when it ends?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Graham Simpson

This is my final question, convener. Are there too many health boards?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Graham Simpson

I am just asking about that contract.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2023”

Meeting date: 20 June 2024

Graham Simpson

I would rather have some kind of answer today. You can write to us, but, if you know the answer, I would rather have it now.