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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 August 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Graham Simpson

I have one more question, which is about the digital inclusion alliance. Perhaps you could explain what on earth that is. While you are answering that, could you tell us why its launch did not go ahead? Perhaps you could go on to discuss the digital citizen unit, tell us what that is and why there has been slow progress on it since it was formed.

Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Graham Simpson

That is for the Government to answer; it is certainly not for you to say why the Government set up those bodies and did not do anything about them.

Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Graham Simpson

I will go back to the question about R100. I am a bit puzzled as to why you did not go into that a little more deeply, because it is surely key. If people do not have access to the internet, they are automatically digitally excluded. What was the reason behind your decision not to go into that?

Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Graham Simpson

Let me turn that on its head a bit. Digital exclusion might be a choice for some people. You do not have to have a mobile phone or a computer, and some people might choose not to have either because that is just the way that they want to go through life. There is a cost to those things, and it is not always cheap to have broadband in your home or a mobile phone with full internet access. Is there a risk that people who make the choice not to be digitally connected will be excluded from public services? We are talking about public services, after all.

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Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Graham Simpson

Neither of us is a lawyer, but, if human rights are being breached, is there not then a risk that the Scottish Government, and indeed other public authorities, could face legal action?

Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Graham Simpson

Before you come in, Bernie, I should say that what I am after is whether you know what percentage of GP practices are offering the service. You might not, because it is quite difficult to find out that information. As you will know, surgeries are all individual businesses, so it is difficult to find out what their working practices are. I just wondered whether you had that percentage.

Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Graham Simpson

Is the low uptake because people are not aware of the tariffs?

Public Audit Committee

Tackling Digital Exclusion

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Graham Simpson

What does the digital citizen division do and why has progress been so slow?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Passenger Railway Services (Public Ownership) Bill

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Graham Simpson

But the legislation that the committee is considering today—I go back to Douglas Lumsden’s line of questioning—tells the Scottish Government and the Welsh Government what they have to do. If a future Scottish Government were to say, “We actually think that we need a different model,” there is a piece of legislation that says, “No—you have to do this as your first option.” As someone who has spoken passionately about devolution, surely you must think that that tramples all over devolution, does it not?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Passenger Railway Services (Public Ownership) Bill

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Graham Simpson

From your answer, can I take it that you quite like the choice that the situation offers customers?