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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 August 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

Because there is no list of people who could replace them. If you are elected as a constituency MSP, there is no list of people who are behind you.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

Correct. I have to say that I think that most people in that position would probably not seek to stay on, but they might, and they should have the opportunity to do so.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

There is a difference between being annoyed at a representative and that representative breaking a set of rules. I guess that we have all annoyed people at some point—

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

My bill attempts to say, “No, you actually have to come in. You are elected as a member of this Parliament. Members of the public expect that you will occasionally turn up, as you would find in any other workplace, and, if you do not, the ultimate sanction is that you could be removed.”

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

You are quite right, because you are here to ask questions; that is what the committee is here for. We are here to explore the issues that are raised by the bill. You have raised a really good point, which is that parties have their internal processes. Indeed, I suppose that, as a whip, you can dish out certain punishments, but you cannot remove somebody as an MSP.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

You really do.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

My bill deals with the individual, regardless of party. The party does not really come into it. I am giving the individual the opportunity to say to the electorate that they should keep their job, regardless of whether they are backed by their original party. I imagine that there will be a lot of cases in which, if somebody has erred so badly that they are subject to a recall vote—this will happen at some point—the party, whichever one it is, might simply wash its hands of that individual, who might then be on their own. However, they, as an individual, should have the opportunity to say that they should keep their job.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

That is what my bill is attempting to enable.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

Well, that is the reality. The only case that we have had in Scotland was in Rutherglen, when Margaret Ferrier was subject to a recall. We would not have found a single person in Rutherglen who was not aware of what was going on.

I accept that there are greater challenges when it comes to regional ˿, because there is more ground to cover. There would have to be a lot of publicity and a good deal of education. If the system that I am proposing was accepted, we would have to explain to people why they were being asked to vote or go to the polls twice.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

She might well do that. There are some geographically huge regions, but if we are going to have a system, we just have to work it out. We just have to accept it.