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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Graham Simpson

Good. Thank you.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Graham Simpson

Minister, as I said at the start, that does not seem to me to be a particularly difficult thing to do. Someone just needs to drive round Scotland’s main roads, call in at places, and have a look. It is not that tricky. We just need to get on with it.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Graham Simpson

Good morning, minister. The committee’s report, to which you responded, was on the supply chain. It is clear that logistics are an important aspect of the supply chain. I was not a member of the committee when it did its inquiry, but I have read the report and your response. As has been said, it was a wide-ranging report. Part of it related to the logistics industry and, in particular, lorry drivers. During the pandemic, we could see that there was a shortage of lorry drivers. In fact, that is a long-standing issue that existed before the pandemic.

The committee identified two problems: the fact that we do not have enough lorry drivers; and the facilities that lorry drivers have to put up with, which are sometimes rank rotten. They really should not have to put up with some of the facilities that are out there. I am not necessarily talking about facilities in Scotland—there is a problem throughout the UK. I think that your letter to the committee refers to that. We need to know what is out there and what the offer is for lorry drivers in Scotland. We need to know what facilities there are.

First, have we started that piece of work? We have been talking about it for long enough. It should not be that difficult to find out what rest and welfare facilities there are in Scotland, and it should not be difficult to find out what condition they are in. We just need to get on with it and work with the industry to make improvements where they are needed.

Secondly, we need to know how many lorry drivers we need.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Graham Simpson

Okay. I will move on to a slightly different area, but will stay on logistics. My question is about electric vehicles. I know that they are not in your brief, but this is about logistics, and we want to decarbonise transport.

The recent report by the cross-party group on sustainable transport highlighted the fact that deliveries increased during the pandemic, with more vans on the road, and that, although more people are switching their private vehicles to electric, we are actually seeing more petrol and diesel vans on the road. As a result, we need a modal shift in delivery vehicles, but the infrastructure to do that needs to be there, and it is not at the moment. What are we doing about that?

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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Graham Simpson

I do not know about that, but we will see.

To follow on from the convener’s questions, what mistakes have you made, First Minister?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Graham Simpson

Do you wish that you had actually listened to the advice of CMAL and retendered?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Graham Simpson

Okay. Earlier, Craig Hoy mentioned the recent BBC programme. I think that he used the term “cheat sheet”, and you have addressed that. However, the programme included another allegation, which was that Ferguson’s was allowed to revise its bid whereas other bidders were not. Why was that?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Graham Simpson

—but I am asking you why Ferguson’s was allowed to revise its bid but no one else was.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Graham Simpson

Okay. What has been the total cost of this so far—including nationalisation and Tim Hair’s exorbitant salary—and what do you envisage will be the end cost?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Graham Simpson

I do not know how long I have left, convener.