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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 August 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 25 January 2024

Graham Simpson

That is interesting. It reminds me of the work that the committee has been doing on colleges. As we have heard, a number of colleges are in a similar position and may have to be bailed out, which sounds like it could be the case here.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 25 January 2024

Graham Simpson

I will leave it until later, convener; the question that occurred to me may be covered by other members.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 25 January 2024

Graham Simpson

I am looking at the timeline in exhibit 1 of the report. It starts in April 2022 with a visit by Healthcare Improvement Scotland. Was that the first that anyone knew that there were problems in the health board, or would issues have been raised before that, which might have spurred HIS to pay its visit?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 25 January 2024

Graham Simpson

After that visit in April 2022, there was a period of months before, in November that year, the board was escalated to stage 4. Obviously it got to that stage because there was a lack of progress. Do we know why there was a lack of progress?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 25 January 2024

Graham Simpson

You said that the board responded

“positively to the escalation framework.”

What do you mean by “positively”?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 25 January 2024

Graham Simpson

I have a final question on a topic that has been covered before. We talked about financial sustainability, and you say in your report that there is a

“risk that the board is not financially sustainable in the short term.”

Rebbecca McConnachie talked about that as well. I want to understand what happens if that continues. If the board remains financially unsustainable, do we escalate it even further?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 18 January 2024

Graham Simpson

Yes, but we are trying to understand why you arrived at the conclusion that it was not value for money to continue with the Glen Rosa, as opposed to another option. Figures are therefore quite important in that regard. I completely accept that, if you were to go out and procure, you might arrive at a different figure, but you have based your assessment on something.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 18 January 2024

Graham Simpson

That is not commercially sensitive, Mr Irwin.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 18 January 2024

Graham Simpson

It would be useful if this committee were to have those updates.

You mentioned the Crown Office. The Auditor General mentioned the Rangers case in his report. I will not ask you about that, but I will ask you about something more topical, and that is the Post Office. Are you allocating money for potential compensation for people who were wrongly convicted in Scotland?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 18 January 2024

Graham Simpson

That money would have to come from Scotland, would it not, because the prosecutions in Scotland were through the Crown Office?