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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 August 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Maurice Golden

Thank you, convener, and I welcome the witnesses to the meeting.

I will start at the beginning. When the existing national parks were assessed, what sort of evidence was sought or research conducted to inform whether a new park should be put in place?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Maurice Golden

I am slightly confused. Is the consultation about various iterations of the Galloway national park, including its geography and the infrastructure that it might house, or is the consultation about whether the park should or should not go ahead?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Maurice Golden

I think so, but it leads me on to what is quite a concerning aspect of this issue. How can communities make an assessment of whether they want something when that thing is not defined? For some people, it would be beneficial if the Loch Lomond and the Trossachs national park did not have the Loch Lomond Shores centre, while others might want something of that scale, because of the economic benefits. By the time that you have layered on proposals on climate change and biodiversity, there might be a number of quite compelling but competing visions for what the Galloway national park would do.

Did you consider doing the consultation in two parts, first, by gaining views, and, secondly, by showcasing those views to communities so that they could decide what might be delivered as a result? Does that make sense?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Maurice Golden

I am a little bit concerned about closing the petition when we have not yet seen the guidance that the Scottish Government has published. We could write to the Minister for Public Finance to seek further information on when that guidance will be published, an update on work to progress proposals for raising the current 50MW threshold to allow planning authorities to determine more applications for onshore wind farms, and more information on what consideration the Scottish Government has given to ensuring that support is available to members of the public who wish to participate in public inquiries.

I fear that we are reaching the end of our involvement with the petition, but there are still some actions that we could undertake.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Maurice Golden

Thanks for that. With onshore wind projects, for example, we have found that Scotland is broadly supportive of them until they are close by. It might be quite interesting to consider that same element in any further research on national parks.

Obviously, the consultation period is just starting, but I am interested in the vision for Galloway national park, in particular, and in how communities can assess whether they want it for their area. Is the vision very similar to those of the existing national parks, or is it slightly different?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Maurice Golden

I repeat that the NFUS has said that

“existing national parks have failed to make a positive contribution to farming and crofting.”

What is different about the proposed Galloway national park that will change that, or will farmers and crofters in Galloway make the same assessment?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Maurice Golden

Thank you. Mhairi Dawson, I have a final question for you. From a land management and farming perspective, are there potential benefits to farming and crofting as a result of the new national park, based on your discussions with NatureScot?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Maurice Golden

From the evidence that we have heard so far, it strikes me that perhaps the starting point in all this is to have a definition of a national park and what it should achieve. For some people, it might be a pristine landscape without any land management, in which case, biodiversity will undoubtedly reduce. Loch Lomond and the Trossachs clearly has lots of tourism—Loch Lomond Shores has amazing facilities to attract tourists—but then the national park did not want more tourists to go there. Before we get to the stage of presenting to the people of Galloway, we need a starting point as to what we are presenting.

Nick Kempe has touched on this, but, based on the two existing national parks, is there an adequate definition of what a new national park might look like and what the experience would be for both visitors and local residents?

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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Maurice Golden

One of our other petitions is about what are colloquially referred to as pylons. We have heard that that consultation basically said, “These are coming, so there’s no option here.” I know that the formal consultation period for the park has not started yet but, from what you have seen so far, has the consultation been framed in a way that says that the national park is coming and that the options are, in essence, about what the boundaries will be?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Maurice Golden

Mhairi Dawson, we have heard that there is not a clear understanding of what NatureScot and the Scottish Government propose for Galloway and that the consultation process thus far has been inadequate. What is your assessment?