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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 August 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Willie Coffey

I would like to hear from the builders around the table, but can I ask the question in another way? Supposing some of your stock had the same cladding on it that Grenfell had, are you telling me that you would still need to clarify the processes and so on to act immediately to remove that? Surely not. Surely, if you know that the material on any of your buildings is risky and should be removed, you can act without demanding further clarity. I have to say to you that constituents talk to me about this. It sounds as though we are hiding behind process issues rather than taking on board the action that needs to be taken when we know that it needs to be taken in many cases. Is that a fair or unfair assessment?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Willie Coffey

Thanks and good morning. From listening to the conversation so far—and I am trying to place myself in the position of someone who has bought a property from you and lives in that property with this continuing risk—I get the feeling that the lack of progress has been pinned on complexities in the legislation, rather than the focus being on making the houses that people live in safe. Have you assessed your own stock over the 30-year period that the legislation covers and do you know which properties you built fall within the remit of the bill to have the cladding remediated? The big question is whether there is anything that you could have done or could do reasonably to address that, given that you know the condition of the buildings and the cladding that you may have. Is there anything that you could be doing outwith the complexities that you are describing this morning to get on with it, as some of the people in the previous panel were asking us all to do?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Willie Coffey

In the interests of time, no. I thank the witnesses very much for those contributions.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Willie Coffey

Yes, but, in your view, this is about Scottish building standards somehow slowing that process down. That was the sense that I got from you earlier—that, if only we could adopt the same standards as apply down south, that would somehow speed up the process in Scotland.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Willie Coffey

I will leave it at that. Thanks very much.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Willie Coffey

Thank you. Colleagues, should the bill be clearer about timescales for completion? It would not be usual to put deadlines and so on in a bill, but what do colleagues around the table feel about including in the bill some real hard and fast deadlines for completion of this work, from when the single building assessments are completed to actually getting the work done? Should we be firmer about including guidance on that in the bill?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Willie Coffey

Hi, folks. I am the MSP for Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Willie Coffey

I would like to go back to the point about how we could hasten progress and what the barriers to that are. We talked about building standards, and I think that Julie Jackson replied to a point about that. In Scotland, we are particularly proud of our building standards, and the legislation is more rigorous than that which applies down south. Julie, I have to come back to you on that point. Are you saying that Scotland should either loosen, slacken, lessen or abandon our building standards in order to make further progress?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Willie Coffey

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for coming to do this work. I particularly want to ask for views on the impacts on the social rented sector, which has been mentioned a couple of times.

First, however, I would like to ask about the 1992 starting point in the bill. I think that that mirrors the UK Government’s legislation. Could the panel offer any views about why that should be the starting point for the 30-year timeframe in the bill? Is it fairly arbitrary, or does the problem with cladding materials only involve buildings constructed in the last 30 years? Do we have the intelligence or knowledge to be sure about that? Is it the panel’s view that there should not be an arbitrary starting point—for example, 1992—within legislation that applies in the UK?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 18 January 2024

Willie Coffey

Good morning. On the previous conversation about books, I hope that we are not going down the road to where politicians can determine what people can and cannot or should and should not read. People who make purchases must be able to justify them within whatever framework they have in place. If we ever reach a position where people say, “You must not and cannot read this book,” that is not a direction of travel that I would like to follow.

On the issue about the Post Office that Mr Simpson raised, is it your understanding, permanent secretary, that the Post Office and Fujitsu will also provide a compensation fund for the cases that emerged as a result of the Post Office scandal?