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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 June 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 14 March 2024

Willie Coffey

Good morning, chief inspector. So far, we have heard some sobering comments, one of which came from the conversation that we have just had about prisoners in the estate. When the question “What’s the solution to this?” was asked, the answer was, “There are too many prisoners—either reduce that population or build more prisons.”

I want to ask what might be a very difficult question for the public to hear the answer to. Are there people in prisons with mental health conditions who, quite frankly, should not be there any more and should be elsewhere?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 14 March 2024

Willie Coffey

Are you prepared to put a number to that? I think that you said that about a third of the prison population have mental health and wellbeing issues. Is that what you said?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 14 March 2024

Willie Coffey

By and large, would you say that there are people in prison at the moment who are no risk to society because of their deteriorating age or mental health?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 14 March 2024

Willie Coffey

You said that, during that time, the infrastructure would “continue to be fragile” and would probably diminish. Five years on, what is your assessment of the condition of Barlinnie? Is it significantly worse?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 14 March 2024

Willie Coffey

The purpose of prisons when Barlinnie was built was nothing like the purpose that you describe now.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 14 March 2024

Willie Coffey

It must be hugely expensive to try to continue to keep Barlinnie in reasonable condition.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 14 March 2024

Willie Coffey

We have touched on changing demographics in the prison population. Will you tell us a little more about the impacts that that is having? You said that there are more elderly people with more health conditions and so on. Is the situation accelerating at a pace that is becoming difficult to manage?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 14 March 2024

Willie Coffey

The whole estate cannot possibly offer all of the range of supports that you describe. Would you say that, even with the best will to deliver that right across the estate, it is beyond us to meet the needs of that ageing population, which is growing and changing?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 14 March 2024

Willie Coffey

Have we assessed any of that across the estate? Have we looked at that and recognised that specifically?

Public Audit Committee

National Strategy for Economic Transformation

Meeting date: 14 March 2024

Willie Coffey

My question is about the growth forecast issues that we discussed a moment ago. This morning, the Fraser of Allander Institute has projected an improved growth forecast for Scotland in the next three years. The figures are slightly behind or slightly ahead of the rest of the United Kingdom figures, depending on how you read them. As we know, the UK has been in recession. The projection for the Republic of Ireland economy is four times that for Scotland. I never want to draw you into any political debate or comparisons—it is not appropriate to do that—but what levers are available to us in Scotland that can influence that to our advantage?