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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 25 December 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of NHS National Services Scotland”; and “Personal protective equipment”

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

Willie Coffey

Do you know whether we are supplying PPE to the international healthcare market as a result of that development in Scotland, or do other countries have sufficient supplies locally?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Crofting Commission”

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

Willie Coffey

Thank you, convener, and good morning, Stephen. I want to talk about the commission’s budget. Your report makes clear some concerns relating to development of the budget. It notes that there was a lack of involvement by the board, or by stakeholders more widely, in setting the commission’s budget. It says:

“The draft budget had been developed without prior Board or Audit and Finance Committee involvement. There was also minimal involvement of the Senior Management Team beyond the Chief Executive and Head of Finance.”

Could you tell us a wee bit about what happened? First, who developed the budget? Could you take us through the process of whether it was, in fact, approved? Is that process still in place?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of NHS National Services Scotland”; and “Personal protective equipment”

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

Willie Coffey

That is an incredible achievement, and it is worth putting it on the record so that the public can be aware of the pace with which Government officials, the NHS and the companies moved to produce the material. I recall that the skies were empty at the beginning of the pandemic—few planes were flying, so, when you saw something coming in, you knew that it was that material.

Auditor General, you mentioned that 470 jobs have been created in relation to the production of PPE in Scotland. Is that likely to be sustainable? Will that become an established production industry for Scotland? Looking ahead, are we now able to contribute to the international healthcare supply chain and help the world to access those products?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of NHS National Services Scotland”; and “Personal protective equipment”

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

Willie Coffey

Is the issue of establishing such a local supply chain likely to be a Government-level decision?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Crofting Commission”

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

Willie Coffey

If there was so little involvement by most of the principal players who should have been part of the process, who approved the budget? Do you know, Pat?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Crofting Commission”

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

Willie Coffey

Ultimately, the board approved a budget that it had no part in developing—neither did its audit and finance committee. However, they all collectively decided to approve it and are, I presume, running with that budget. How are they getting on? Is the budget in place and working, or is the organisation in trouble?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Crofting Commission”

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

Willie Coffey

Has the board recognised that these are, as the convener noted a minute or so ago, serious and major issues, and has it accepted that that is not the way to develop a budget?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Crofting Commission”

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

Willie Coffey

It is important to probe further what happened. When you were doing the audit, you must surely have asked what on earth the board thought it was doing by proceeding in such a manner, which basically breaks all the guidance for organisations that is known to us and has been known to the committee for many years. What explanation was offered to you for that?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of NHS National Services Scotland”; and “Personal protective equipment”

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

Willie Coffey

I have a question about the online portal that the Auditor General mentioned earlier. In the Public Audit Committee, we usually receive the opposite type of reports about information and communication technology initiatives, but the online portal for PPE ordering seems to have been a success. Do you have any information on who developed it? Is it still in place and working well?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of NHS National Services Scotland”; and “Personal protective equipment”

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

Willie Coffey

That is great. Thank you.