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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 30 April 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Willie Coffey

Yes. So, if people ignore the invitation to complete the census, they will still get a visit and a paper copy. That covers that.

What did you say earlier about the expected likely percentage? You talked about an all-paper or all-digital model, or a mix of paper and digital. Did you say that there is a drop-off in the response rate if you mix those models of inviting contributions from people?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Willie Coffey

How do you envisage the census developing in the future? I know that we might be 10 years away from the next one, but do you see us continuing with the digital solution, mixed with paper? Will we continue to use that model in future?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Willie Coffey

That is very helpful. With regard to whether a proportion of the money was fraudulently obtained or disbursed in error, is any attempt being made to recover any of that money? Whether or not it was fraudulently obtained, are we in a process of trying to recover that, or is that just one of the casualties of the circumstances in which we found ourselves?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Willie Coffey

In asking my next question, I am thinking of one of the lessons that we have learned as an audit committee over the years. If local authorities are involved in a process such as this and something is going on—fraudulent claims to the authority, for instance—are they quick to share that intelligence among other authorities, so that they can be alerted to possible similar activities, or do they not do that? Have they even had have time to do that during the pandemic? It seems as though they might have done so and that they have collaborated fairly well to minimise the impact. Is that the case, would you say?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Willie Coffey

Thank you both for those answers.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Willie Coffey

If a huge number of responses to the census are completed digitally and electronically, who has access to that data? Who owns it, and how secure is it? Can you talk us through that, please?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Willie Coffey

With regard to online submission, can people do that in little bits and bobs rather than completing the form from start to finish in one go? Can they pick up a bit of it and review it later on, and then submit the whole thing at the end when it is complete? Can they take their time about it?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Willie Coffey

I will ask some questions relating to the Covid-19 business support scheme and the commentary in the consolidated accounts relating to fraud, potential and otherwise.

We know that, in trying to be as helpful as possible, the distributing of funds was a very quick process. We also know that that brought with it greater risks. Will you give us a little bit of an overview of how you feel that that process has gone?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Willie Coffey

Good morning. I will start by asking Paul Lowe a few questions about the mechanism for getting the census—[Inaudible.]—flip between digital and paper. You talked about that earlier, but could you give us some more details about how that will work?

Hitherto, everybody got a paper copy delivered to their house, so you could be pretty sure that everyone had it. From what you said, this way, everybody will get a letter and people who arenae connected to the digital world can phone you and get one posted to them. What happens if they do not do that? How will we know who has not bothered to engage with the process? Will you have people in place who can check and determine that, and then deliver the census to people? Can you talk us through how you will get the census into everybody’s hands?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Willie Coffey

The data that is ultimately submitted by a person in Scotland, either digitally or on paper, is not used for any purpose other than the census, is it? It is not given to third parties, and they would not have any access, or any rights, to it. It is fairly secure and is for that single purpose. Is that correct?