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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 August 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Major Capital Projects

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Willie Coffey

Colleagues will no doubt pick some examples from the portfolio, but with all those standards in place at the outset, why do projects sometimes go over budget and over time? You are applying the standards and construction and design techniques are being followed to the letter. Why do they overrun?

Public Audit Committee

Major Capital Projects

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Willie Coffey

I was talking about issues during the construction phase, not from the approval. Why does a project become late or over budget if everything is agreed up front and the specifications, designs, budget and so on are in place?

Public Audit Committee

Major Capital Projects

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Willie Coffey

If and when a project begins to slip in the delivery schedule or budget, how soon does that get spotted and who gets told about it? Where does the chain of information flow go? It will eventually come back here at some point and we will see it through Audit Scotland’s reporting, but how soon is it captured that there may be an issue with delivery, timescale and budget?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802â€

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Willie Coffey

It is difficult for us. In your response to Colin Beattie, you said that these were management failures, not workforce failures, but, with regard to the specification for the ship and the construction, surely the specifications were followed by the workforce. Where is that failure? Is it the management’s failure to give the workforce correct specifications?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802â€

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Willie Coffey

Thanks very much. It sounds as though it is a little bit of both. My interpretation is that cables were short but equipment was in different places as well. Is that fair?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802â€

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Willie Coffey

To be totally clear, none of the observation reports is connected to specification changes—design changes or spec changes.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802â€

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Willie Coffey

Overall, they do not give you cause for concern about further delay or further cost—they are a normal part of the construction process.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802â€

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Willie Coffey

It is getting there.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802â€

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Willie Coffey

You are saying that there were errors in the design and specification for these vessels and the workforce simply carried out the work as specified?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802â€

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Willie Coffey

I will turn to the thorny issue of the cables, which has come up several times in the committee. Paragraph 138 of the Auditor General’s report highlights:

“This process identified that some of the 1,400 cables that FMEL had installed at the end of 2018 were too short to reach required equipment.â€

I put that point to Mr McColl last week, I think, and his response was that the specification changed constantly and equipment was moved around, making the cables shorter as a result. Could I ask for your view on that comment so that we can get that on the record?