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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Willie Coffey

The key component that is perhaps missing in the process is possibly the ability of the yard to deliver the ships. We all know that hindsight is a wonderful thing, but why would there not be in that process some kind of assessment of the yard’s ability to complete the vessels on time and on budget? That is what has happened since. Where was the assurance about the yard’s ability to complete them? Where was that in the process?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Willie Coffey

I ask you to clarify that all the key players in the process were content—perhaps not happy, but content—that the risks with which we were presented were manageable. At that stage, everyone was content to make a recommendation to proceed. Is that correct?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Willie Coffey

Can you think of any additional process of assurance that could have taken place that might have helped us to avoid getting to where we are today? What could we possibly have done at that time to try to avoid the circumstances that we find ourselves in?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Willie Coffey

Good morning, Mr Middleton. I will ask a few questions about that area as well.

Up to the point where the approval was given, there was clearly concern about the contracts, and it did not lead to anyone asking for written authority or ministerial direction, so there must have been some kind of assurance process that enabled you to recommend to ministers that they proceed with the contract. That seems to be missing for members of the committee and the public. What happened to take us from concerns to feeling able to recommend proceeding with the contract? What did the assurance process that enabled that advice to be given to the minister look like?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Willie Coffey

Good morning, Derek. I want to unpick a wee bit the nature and substance of the assurance that was given to you to allow you to proceed to award the contract. Was it submissions that said, “We assure you that everything is okay, minister”, or were there technical documents in that assurance framework that contained information, technical advice and guidance, evidence and so on? What is the substance of the assurance that you read to enable you to make the award?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Willie Coffey

I asked Mr Middleton about this earlier. The key players who were involved in giving you that recommendation must have been similarly assured that what they were saying to you was delivered.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 6 September 2022

Willie Coffey

Good morning, everyone. I will pick on Mike Callaghan and Gary Fairley from COSLA to ask whether issues that East Ayrshire Council—my council—raised in its submission are shared by councils across Scotland.

One of the big messages in East Ayrshire Council’s submission is about the decision whether

“to invest in existing stock”

or in “new build”. It is clear that many councils will have to face that choice. East Ayrshire said that it is “untenable” for it to consider both strategies without an on-going assessment of the impact of borrowing and all the factors that colleagues around the table have mentioned so far. As COSLA representatives and spokespersons, do you share the view that it is in effect untenable for councils to do both?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 6 September 2022

Willie Coffey

East Ayrshire Council also commented on grant levels. Aaron Hill mentioned the flexibility that the Scottish Government has already shown. If a council provides sufficient evidence, hopefully a grant is made, and the funding can be made available. However, East Ayrshire Council said that the process works on a site-by-site or project basis. Is there an issue there, such that we need to improve the process and make it a bit more seamless?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 6 September 2022

Willie Coffey

I have a final query for our COSLA colleagues, if they are still online. It is reported that the UK Government might be thinking about bringing back the right to buy for housing association homes. East Ayrshire Council made a specific response to that point, saying that it could make the situation worse, especially in the current climate. Do our friends and colleagues from COSLA share that view?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 6 September 2022

Willie Coffey

Thank you. I will hand back to other colleagues.