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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 August 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Willie Coffey

My next question is for COSLA and SOLACE. On the flip side of that, the Audit Scotland report identified that, although we know that a huge amount of public money is spent on social care,

“progress in moving to more preventative approaches to delivering social care has been limited.â€

What are your views on that? Perhaps both Eddies could comment on that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Willie Coffey

That is probably enough from me, in the interest of bringing in other colleagues.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Willie Coffey

However, we agree that there is inconsistency across Scotland in delivering the outcomes that we all seek. How do we address that without a national model that could apply the standards that Eddie Fraser described earlier? How, without national application of standards, would we improve consistency in authorities where it is needed?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Willie Coffey

Are there any other comments about flexibility and collaboration? Will we lose them or can we retain and develop them under the bill?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Willie Coffey

Thank you for that, Ashley.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802â€

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Willie Coffey

On Monday, the workers said to us that they were fed up with the whole issue being used as a political football. I am sure that we all know that there is an inevitability to that, but they were fed up with it.

Can you offer some words of comfort and support to the members of the workforce, to show them that we value the work that they are doing and that we recognise that they are playing a crucial role in helping us to complete projects that will ultimately benefit the public when the ships go into service?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802â€

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Willie Coffey

Good morning, First Minister. It may be a little early to come in on lessons learned, but I hope to pick up on a point that was raised earlier, on which you gave some information.

One of the early messages that the committee got on the project concerned the lack of technical rigour that was applied at the outset to determine the yard’s capabilities to build the ships, in terms of its facilities and so on, and the skills and expertise of the workforce to build the designs that were presented to them. For example, the vessels had a clamshell-door design, and we heard from the workers that they had never built ships to that design before.

I realise that you cannot possibly be aware of the details of that at that stage, but perhaps you can say something about the importance of technical design and rigour, and a thorough assessment of technical capabilities, at the outset of such a project. Is that one of the key lessons that we are learning from the experience?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802â€

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Willie Coffey

Thank you for that.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802â€

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Willie Coffey

Looking ahead, I think that all the committee members who visited the yard on Monday were impressed by the current management and the dedication of the workforce to completing the work. We were told that they were a wee bit apprehensive about our visit.

Given the level of attention that the project is attracting, can you give the committee and the public an assurance that sufficient technical oversight and management are in place to see the project through, and that the workforce’s expertise is part of the process that will take us to completion?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802â€

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Willie Coffey

Following on from that, one of the other messages that we heard was that the design seemed to chop and change from time to time after the build had started. That presented the workforce with significant problems—and probably still does, to be honest. On reflection, do we really need to insist on that aspect and strengthen agreement about the design before we start building? That could apply to anything from a ship to a house—or a bridge, even. We must not engage in a redesign process while we are actually building the thing that we are trying to build.