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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 June 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Willie Coffey

Thank you very much, convener.

On the issue that Sharon Dowey has just raised, it seems from the explanation that no load testing of the system was carried out in advance. It is clear that that would and should have identified that the system would think that there was a cyberattack. Why was that not done in advance?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Willie Coffey

Okay. Thanks for that.

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Willie Coffey

The submission says that the digital assurance office was established in 2019, but I also note that that was the last year in which a project was stopped for any reason. Has your experience since then benefited you by allowing you to identify as early as possible whether a project should or should not go forward? Are you saying that, since the DAO developed this process, every piece of work that has been undertaken has successfully gone through the various stages to completion?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Willie Coffey

Thank you for that.

It is the digital assurance framework itself that gives rise to my next question. How do we make sure that we have the right people and the right balance to review a particular piece of work? Perhaps that is a question for Sharon Fairweather. Looking at the organogram that you have submitted in your letter, Sharon, I find the set of structures with regard to officers and responsibilities fairly complex. What does it mean in practice? Moreover, given what Geoff Huggins has just said, how do you choose which skills to deploy in particular reviews that you undertake?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Willie Coffey

Does that cover the software development skills and ability of the team in question, their quality management experience of the tools to be used and so on鈥攖hat is, the whole technical side鈥攁nd an appraisal of whether the team is capable of delivering to requirements?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Willie Coffey

Aye.

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Willie Coffey

My next question is on an issue that comes up regularly at committee. It appears that, when you commission of any new piece of IT software, if you get the specification, the design, the embracing of quality standards and all of that stuff right at the outset, there is a fair chance that you will get everything right. Where does that sort of thing sit within the framework, Sharon? Where is that assurance work done?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Willie Coffey

We have not asked for this, convener, but is it possible to see an example of a staged assessment so that we can follow the process right from the beginning, when the technical appraisal of a piece of work is carried out, through the review that is undertaken to the project then being signed off? Could we see what happens at each stage?

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Willie Coffey

I am not asking for anything specific. I am just wondering whether it would be possible to see that sort of thing, if one wanted to have a look at the process.

Public Audit Committee

Major Information and Communications Technology Projects

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Willie Coffey

That would be good.

Another common theme that arises at the committee is the identification of things that can be learned and the sharing of good practice. How do we capture all of that鈥攖he lessons learned and the sharing of good practice鈥攖o ensure that the best possible solutions are being deployed?

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