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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 June 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

I welcome to the meeting our second panel of witnesses: Catherine Murphy, executive director, Engender; Sandy Brindley, chief executive, Rape Crisis Scotland; Naomi McAuliffe, Scotland programme director, Amnesty International Scotland; and Jen Ang, director of policy and development, JustRight Scotland.

I invite our witnesses to make short opening statements, starting with Catherine Murphy.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Our next item is to continue taking evidence on the Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill.

I welcome to the meeting our first panel. Lucy Hunter Blackburn is from MurrayBlackburnMackenzie; Susan Smith is co-director of For Women Scotland; Dr Kate Coleman is director of Keep Prisons Single Sex; and Malcolm Clark is head of research at the LGB Alliance.

I refer members to papers 1 and 2.

I invite Lucy Hunter Blackburn to make a short opening statement.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Thank you, Malcolm. We will now move to questions, starting with Maggie Chapman.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

We need to watch the time. A couple of folk want to ask a quick supplementary question. I ask that you try to keep things tight, because we need to ask the rest of the questions.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Okay. We have covered that issue. It was a useful discussion. That was in response to a supplementary question; I invite Karen Adam to ask her substantive question.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Mr Clark, can I just say that I do not know who the person you are talking about is, so we should probably not be using their name.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

We are approaching the end of the time that we had allocated for the session, but I have taken the decision to extend it by half an hour. I hope that folk are okay with that.

Maggie Chapman has a very quick supplementary question on the point that has just been made.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

We are really running over time, so can you keep your next question brief, please?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Thank you all. We will now move to questions. Maggie Chapman is first.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Thank you. I call Pam Duncan-Glancy.