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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Before the cabinet secretary responds, there was a point that is more for me than for her. Right at the start, the committee agreed to hear from the bill team in private as an introduction to the bill. That was the unanimous decision of the committee at the time. Obviously, Ms Hamilton was not a member of the committee at that time, but the correct procedure in Parliament is that a minute is not taken of private sessions. However, a note of that session was published. It was not really fair to put that to the cabinet secretary; it was for us as a committee. We took a decision, albeit prior to Ms Hamilton鈥檚 attendance.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Thank you. I am trying hard not to police language unless it is directed at an individual, but you have made your point.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Welcome to the 21st meeting of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee in 2022. Our first agenda item is consideration of six negative instruments. I refer members to paper 1. Do members have comments on any of the instruments?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

That concludes consideration of the Scottish statutory instruments. We will suspend briefly.

10:03 Meeting suspended.  

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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

The next item agenda is to continue taking evidence on the Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill. Before we start our formal evidence session, I put on the record our thanks to a number of groups who have engaged with us privately over the past week or so to give us their views on the bill. Anonymised notes of those sessions will be published in due course.

I welcome Shona Robison, the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Housing and Local Government, and her officials from the Scottish Government: Peter Hope-Jones is head of the gender recognition unit and Colin Gilchrist is a solicitor.

I refer members to papers 2 and 3. I invite the cabinet secretary to make a short opening statement.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

Yes, but it is probably worth flagging up to anyone who is watching that we have had a session with the EHRC, when a lot of those points were put to the EHRC. Folk can watch the recording of that session on Parliament TV and decide for themselves.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

I call Pam Duncan-Glancy.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

We now go to Maggie Chapman.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

It is probably worth saying that some of the witnesses from whom we took evidence used the word 鈥渢ransition鈥 in relation to social or medical transition rather than in relation to using GRC processes.

As members have no further questions, I thank the cabinet secretary, Peter and Colin for attending the meeting. That brings the public part of our meeting to a close.

12:47 Meeting continued in private until 12:57.  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 June 2022

Joe FitzPatrick

I think that Pam Duncan-Glancy was looking to come in on this area.