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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Bob Doris

It will be, convener. There will potentially be £120 million per annum going to Scottish local authorities from a system administrator, who is to be appointed. That is very welcome. On parliamentary scrutiny in relation to all of that, do you anticipate that the system administrator would come to this Parliament to explain how they arrived at the breakdown for all 32 Scottish local authorities, to ensure that they are getting an appropriate share of the pot of cash that is created across the UK? What thoughts has the Scottish Government given to ensuring that the data that we get and the cash that local authorities get will be accurate and appropriate for each local authority?

Our committee papers state:

“The SA will then distribute that funding to local authorities. It will calculate the ‘net efficient disposal costs’ (efficient disposal costs in an assessment year, less waste income for that year)”,

which is partly because certain aspects are reserved. The explanation goes on. I will not go on, convener, but it can get quite complex.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Bob Doris

My question is not on this either.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Bob Doris

Of course.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Bob Doris

To be fair, I did not ask about incineration.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Bob Doris

Clearly, we can engage in partnership with local authorities on scrutiny work in relation to that issue, but I asked that question because I wonder whether the quantum of cash that will be available for Scotland has been agreed, because we are talking about levies that will apply to businesses like Amazon, which operate across the UK and internationally. Will the remote and rural weighting kick in once the cash has been established for Scotland or will that weighting be at a pan-UK level, which would give Scotland a larger pot of cash to begin with? Those things become quite important. Also, at a later date, a local authority that felt that it was not getting a reasonable share of the pot of cash might want to come to this committee and ask what we can do about that. That is why I was asking about the scheme administrator. I am trying to future-proof parliamentary scrutiny as much as anything else.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Bob Doris

I am content with that. It is a complex area. It is about ensuring that the Government is live to the interaction between the regulations and the wider WEEE and other fiscal measures. That has been helpful. The terminology is dreadful—when I hear “WEEE” I think of a Nintendo Wii from several years ago—but I will leave it at that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Bob Doris

I have a brief observation. I did not think that I was going to make this comment, but I commend the Government for taking a very proportionate approach and looking constructively at the four-nations approach to going live in April next year. The Government is not rushing towards the need for an exemption from the UK Internal Market Act 2020 but taking a four-nations approach in the first instance, as we all have a common interest in the issue. That is a good tone to set as we seek to engage with the new UK Government, with the backstop measure of that exemption as and when required. I think that that is the way to do business, so I say thank you, cabinet secretary.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Bob Doris

I will leave it at that. The important thing is that trading standards officers, who will have to enforce the regulations, have said that they are content.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Bob Doris

I was not suggesting that. Rather than be a pedant, I will seek an assurance, which I think that Mr McPhee gave, that trading standards officers are content that they have appropriate powers, but that the Government will keep that under review, along with trading standards officers, and would act if there was a gap in the regulations that needed to be plugged.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Bob Doris

Officers will have to identify vapes as such. It has been put to me that they would have to take a sample and identify an item as a single-use vape before they can then move to seize and confiscate it. Under the regulations, they cannot take a batch of items that they suspect to be single-use vapes at that point, so there could be a delay in the process. Are the powers drawn too narrowly? Will enforcement officers be able to go in and, if they have a reasonable suspicion that there are boxes upon boxes of single-use vapes, seize them at that point?