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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 November 2024

Bob Doris

I think that Mr Balfour is hoping that that will be a seamless transfer.

I welcome to the meeting Shirley-Anne Somerville, the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice. I also welcome her team of officials from the Scottish Government. They are Beth Stanners, who is a senior policy officer in the carer benefits and case transfer policy unit; David Hilber, who is team leader in case transfer policy; and Thomas Nicol, who is a lawyer. You are all very welcome, and I thank you for joining us today.

Following this evidence session, the committee will be invited, in an upcoming agenda item, to consider a motion to approve the instrument.

I remind everyone that Scottish Government officials can speak under this agenda item, but not in the debate that follows.

I invite the cabinet secretary to make a short opening statement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 November 2024

Bob Doris

Thank you, cabinet secretary. We have a few questions this morning.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Child Poverty (Scotland) Act 2017 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 21 November 2024

Bob Doris

I am quite alarmed to hear about the uptake of the Scottish child payment in Glasgow, so you might have a Glasgow MSP reaching out to you very soon. Before I bring in Paul O’Kane, Sally Buchanan would like to come in.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Child Poverty (Scotland) Act 2017 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 21 November 2024

Bob Doris

Thank you for saving us time. Paul O’Kane immediately nodded his head when you spoke, because that was the substance of his follow-up question. Thank you for that, because we now have a clear understanding.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 November 2024

Bob Doris

I call Jeremy Balfour.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 November 2024

Bob Doris

Perfect.

Motion agreed to.

10:30  

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 21 November 2024

Bob Doris

Good morning, and welcome to the 31st meeting of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee in 2024. We have received apologies from Katy Clark. Marie McNair and Collette Stevenson join us online. I welcome Gordon MacDonald back to the committee, replacing Kevin Stewart, whom I thank for his valued contribution to the committee during the time that he was on it.

Our first agenda item is a declaration of interests. Gordon, as a new member of the committee, do you have any relevant interests to declare?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 21 November 2024

Bob Doris

Thank you, Gordon. That is now on the record.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Child Poverty (Scotland) Act 2017 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 21 November 2024

Bob Doris

Our next agenda item is the first evidence session on post-legislative scrutiny of the Child Poverty (Scotland) Act 2017. The committee has already done some scrutiny work on child poverty, including inquiries into the impact of the Scottish child payment and efforts to increase earnings from parental employment.

This inquiry adds to that work by considering the impact of having a legislative framework in the act that underpins policies.

Today, we will hear from a panel of witnesses focusing on the impact of the act on local policy and delivery. I welcome the witnesses, who are attending remotely: Evan Beswick, who is the chief officer at Argyll and Bute health and social care partnership; Sally Buchanan, who is the library services and fairer Falkirk manager at Falkirk Council; Martin Booth, who is the executive director of finance at Glasgow City Council; and Peter Kelly, who is the chief executive of the Poverty Alliance. I thank all four of you for joining us; your support is appreciated.

We have received apologies from Charlotte Cuddihy from NHS Lothian, who unfortunately is unable to attend the meeting this morning.

I will mention a few housekeeping rules before we start the formal evidence session. I ask those giving evidence to wait until I say—or another member asking a question says—your name before you speak. Please allow our broadcasting colleagues a few seconds to turn on your microphone, as a small pause before speaking is desirable. Please also type “R” in the chat box if you wish to come in. Be a little patient, because the clerks will pass me the information—I will not see the chat box myself.

I ask everyone—I include myself in this—to keep questions and answers as concise as possible. The first question is from Collette Stevenson.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Child Poverty (Scotland) Act 2017 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 21 November 2024

Bob Doris

Thank you, Collette. I call Liz Smith.