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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Bob Doris

That is really helpful. Thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Bob Doris

So, you are comparing the quality of all six bids, but your belief is that all six bids will be of high quality. Then you have to determine what is best for the public purse.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Great British Energy Bill

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Bob Doris

I will give the briefest preamble to my final question. I do not doubt the good will and common cause in relation to the Secretary of State for Scotland, the Scottish Government or the CEO. I am not trying to be a fly in the ointment either; I am just trying to do my due diligence in relation to scrutiny. However, of course, secretaries of state come and go, cabinet secretaries come and go—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Bob Doris

Is that on the basis of the routes that the ship is intended to operate on?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Bob Doris

I have some very brief questions on the same front. The dead weight of 791 tonnes was the target in the contract. Is that correct?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Bob Doris

You are just going to check whether that was within the flexibility in the margins.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Bob Doris

I would like to know where the restrictions are and where the ship can now be used. Are there more limitations on those vessels because of the current specifications, rather than the specifications that were set in the original contract? I am happy to get those details in writing but, ultimately, that is just numbers, and numbers alone are meaningless. What is meaningful is whether or not those two vessels can now technically do less if, at some point in the future, they were to be redeployed elsewhere to do other tasks.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Bob Doris

That is helpful, but I ask you to reflect on the basic point that I am making. Unless this is their bread and butter or their business, anyone listening to this meeting just wants to know whether the two vessels will be less effective on their current routes. We have a clear expectation that that will not be the case and that they will do exactly as was always intended, but they could be redeployed for other purposes within the fleet at some point in the future. Are there more restrictions on what they can or cannot do because of the variation in specifications?

Mr Hobbs said that there will technically be two fewer articulated lorries. That explanation becomes meaningful to someone, rather than the numbers that are flying about. It would be helpful if, either here this morning or in writing, we could get a meaningful explanation on that because, quite frankly, most people are just hearing gobbledygook. That would be helpful.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Bob Doris

Okay. I do not want to pursue that any further other than to ask a more general question, which is not related to dead weight. After signing contracts for vessels to be delivered, is it normal or routine that those who win those contracts will, at some point during the construction phase, approach their partner and say, “We believe that there is a case for a contract specification variation,” and then seek agreement with those who have given them the contract in the first place? Is that unusual or is it routine?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Bob Doris

Can you say a bit more about when that has happened in the past?