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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Bob Doris

That is very interesting. I am tempted to ask more questions, but I will not, because of time.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Bob Doris

Yes鈥攖hey would not necessarily be to catch the landowner out but to see what is happening out there in the real world and make recommendations about how land management plans can be improved more generally.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Bob Doris

That was a helpful conversation between Mr Fleetwood and the convener. The debate is really about the cost versus the affordability of land management plans.

We have heard evidence through our scrutiny that good landowners will already be doing all the things that you would expect to see in a land management plan. That will now be placed on a statutory footing. Landowners come to the committee and tell us that they do the consultation anyway. Is it not the case, convener鈥攖he question is for Mr Fleetwood, of course鈥攖hat good landowners would have nothing to fear and that the work to draw up a land management plan, including community consultation, should already be taking place, if they are a good, responsible landowner? What are your thoughts on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Bob Doris

That is helpful. The committee has to contrast cost and affordability with what best practice looks like out there.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Bob Doris

Does anyone else have thoughts on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Bob Doris

It does help. I have a final brief question, which I will ask more about later. Is that an argument for a proportionate approach to what the new commission would deem to be an appropriate level of endeavour to produce a good-quality plan rather than an argument against land management plans? Is it more about being balanced in how we take this forward, rather than about not taking it forward?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Bob Doris

I want to ask a little about how we identify breaches in land management plans. The commission has recommended that the proposed new land and communities commissioner should have the power to instigate investigations into potential breaches resulting from a lack of a proper community consultation and engagement process. It has also recommended that the commissioner also have a more general power to instigate its own investigations, irrespective of who can or cannot report a breach, if the new commissioner is aware that there are reasonable grounds that there has been a breach about any matter to do with land management plans, and not specifically to do with a consultation. I would like Mr Carlow鈥檚 initial views on that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Bob Doris

I do not want to put words in your mouth, but are you, in effect, saying that, although it is perfectly good to award the power, because of the resource that an individual commissioner might have their ability to use it might be pretty limited?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Bob Doris

Are all other witnesses okay with that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Bob Doris

So, the new commissioner does not have to be involved in conflict; they can do some proactive work to build relationships.