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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 August 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry

Meeting date: 7 September 2023

Bob Doris

Mr Finch, I do not know whether you will be drawn on that, but I would not be doing my job properly, as an MSP for constituents who are directly impacted by this, if I did not ask the question: would those measures make a difference to the affordability of transport?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry

Meeting date: 7 September 2023

Bob Doris

But can you confirm that income—not just price—is a key aspect?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry

Meeting date: 7 September 2023

Bob Doris

But we have just spent 10 to 20 minutes talking about affordability, and it was not a moot point then. I agree with everything that you have said. Other members will ask questions about the issue that you have raised, and you will be able to put your points on the record. I will support you when you do so. I totally get the point that you are making, but you are not answering the question that I asked.

I will make one more attempt to ask the question. If you do not want to answer it, that is okay. I am not trying to be rude; I am simply trying to elicit some information that would be helpful to the committee in its inquiry.

The inquiry is about how transport plays a role in child poverty and parental employment. Is the money that is provided by the DWP and the Scottish Government being used strategically, and well enough, in your opinion? That is a reasonable question.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry

Meeting date: 7 September 2023

Bob Doris

Mick Hogg, do you want to add anything?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 7 September 2023

Bob Doris

Thank you, convener. It is great to be back on the committee. I have no relevant interests to declare, but, as always, I invite those who wish to do so to look at my register of interests.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry

Meeting date: 7 September 2023

Bob Doris

It would be interesting to hear your thoughts.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry

Meeting date: 7 September 2023

Bob Doris

I do not think that that is an answer. Mr White, do you have anything to add?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry

Meeting date: 7 September 2023

Bob Doris

My final question is for Mr Hogg, because Mr Finch and Mr White cannot speak for individual bus operators but Mr Hogg can talk from years of experience of the workforce within the railways.

One issue is that we want to have trains that run later, start earlier, or run more frequently. That all comes down to cost but it also comes down to supporting workers’ pay and conditions. Have there been discussions between ScotRail and the RMT about how we could run trains a bit earlier, or later, in a way that is affordable? There will be additional staff costs, but have we started thinking about how we can reshape the railways to be more responsive in supporting children in poverty and parental employment?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry

Meeting date: 7 September 2023

Bob Doris

Paul Finch, that relates to rural transport, where there might be gaps in the service. Perhaps it is even more vital to get that co-ordination between rail hubs and lifeline bus routes. Does that partnership work in the more rural parts of the country?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 28 June 2023

Bob Doris

Did you say 16 per cent?