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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 May 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

With regard to the board, in your time as chair, has meeting every two months been enough?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

The Ferguson’s business plan refers to a direct award of the small vessel replacement programme. I wanted a direct award, and I think that we all wanted that but, obviously, the Scottish Government did not do that, because of legal advice on the legislation that is in place—the UK Subsidy Control Act 2022. Was it wise for the business plan to refer to a direct award for the yard to do the work?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

With regard to the condition of the yard, I have been in it many times over the years, and I think that it is fair to say that it was a working museum. The condition that it was in due to the complete lack of investment for many years made it a relic of a bygone age, to be quite frank. Notwithstanding the investment that has gone in and which has been touched on today, including the £14.2 million in next year’s budget and the £9 million being put aside from that, it is fair to say that additional and on-going investment will be required to bring the yard to a place where it can compete globally to win work. Would that be something that you would consider?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

I took the 60 and 40 per cent figures from the official report from the—

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

I think that that 30-year figure is an underestimate, but what you say is positive to hear.

The one thing that is missing is work, in the form of orders. We will see what the situation is with the small vessels by the end of March. Clearly, we all want that work to go to Ferguson’s. There is also the SVRP 2 project, which involves three vessels. What else is in the pipeline? There was the BAE Systems work.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

I absolutely agree, and I think the fact—

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

It might be useful for the committee to have a timeline. Clearly, the board meetings are online, and another three will be put on the Ferguson’s website. However, it would be useful for us to see a timeline for the committee and sub-committee meetings so that we can have a better understanding.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

Then the self-employed contract was in December 2022.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

According to Mr Tydeman, those two things happened at the same time—there was an agreement at the same time for them to happen.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

If you can send it over, that would be very helpful.

I have a final question, which is about the board. At the committee’s previous meeting on the issue, I asked about the fact that the board meets six times a year. To go back to an earlier point that you made, Mr Miller, I suggest that you were a wee bit conservative to say that there has been media coverage of the yard for six years, because clearly it has been 10 years plus—