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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 May 2025
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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Instrument subject to Made Affirmative Procedure

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

Is the committee content with the instrument?

Members indicated agreement.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

Let me pose the question first.

I genuinely think that it would be useful to get an absolute timeline of events. The Audit Scotland report states that

“The investigation identified that the former chief executive approved the ... payments without the knowledge of the board or the remuneration committee”.

However, according to what is in the Official Report of the NZET Committee meeting, there was an actual written formal agreement. If there was a formal agreement between CMAL and Ferguson’s, I do not understand why the Audit Scotland report would say what it has said. It also does not seem to tie in totally with what Mr Tydeman has said.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

That would be helpful. Thank you.

On the future of the yard, Mr Petticrew and I have had a number of discussions in the past and I think that we share the same view on the yard’s past, present and future.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

Thank you very much, convener. Thanks, too, for the build-up earlier.

I want a couple of points to be clarified before I get into the main thrust of my line of questioning. At a meeting of the NZET Committee in early January, Jim Anderson spoke about a lessons learned document that was to be published by the end of January. This morning, there was some dialogue about documents. Is that the same document, or are they separate? Clearly, the lessons learned from the MV Glen Sannox and the MV Glen Rosa projects are hugely important.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

If possible, yes.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

Yes. That is helpful.

My second question goes back to the points about Mr Tydeman. At the same meeting of the NZET Committee, at column 37 in the Official Report, Kevin Hobbs was asked questions regarding the agreement to second Andy Crossan to Ferguson’s. Mr Hobbs referenced you, Mr Dishon, and said that you questioned him. We have information in the section 22 report, from paragraph 29 onwards, as well as the information from Mr Tydeman, which was touched on earlier, in which he says that the arrangement was

“approved by the chairman ... at the time.”

I accept that that was not you, Mr Miller.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

According to the information that Mr Tydeman sent, the revised contract up to £54k was in June 2022.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

Okay.

Clarity is lacking regarding the five-week holiday period, which has been touched on, so I have some questions about that.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

I was going to finish on this point, if I may.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

That is no problem. There was such a dearth of apprenticeships over many years, so there is a gap, as we all know, in relation to young people coming into the business. The point about keeping people in the business and about work is absolutely crucial.