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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 May 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

There is an excellent story to tell. I only found out a few weeks ago about what ScotRail offers, because I was dealing with it on behalf of a constituent. I put the point to ScotRail that it needs to tell more people about its openness and its offer to help people. ScotRail told me that, as a consequence of that offer, more people with disabilities are travelling on the rail network as opposed to sitting at home and doing nothing.

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

That ties into paragraph 14, which is on page 11, and exhibit 8, which is on page 37, with regard to areas that are outwith the Scottish Parliament’s powers. A potential suggestion is—dare I say it—to reduce fuel duty, which would impact on bus travel overall. Paragraph 67 mentions bus operators cancelling services and the many challenges that they face. If bus travel was cheaper, more people would certainly be aided and encouraged to use that form of transport. Surely a discussion could be had about passing on a reduction in fuel duty to bus operators in order to reduce the cost of tickets.

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

Paragraph 16 covers an issue that has been under discussion for some time. I always read Audit Scotland’s overarching reports through the prism of how it will affect my Greenock and Inverclyde constituency. There has been past dialogue about a Glasgow airport rail link, and now there is discussion about a metro scheme, but every option that has come forward would have a negative impact on public transport usage in Inverclyde and would reduce services from Inverclyde to Glasgow.

I have a meeting with the Strathclyde Partnership for Transport about the issue on Friday, but surely any proposals or projects that come forward, whether from SPT or anyone else in the country, should add to public transport usage; they should not be at its expense.

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

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Exhibit 4, on page 30, was helpful.

I will talk about something that is not any Government or council’s fault; it is a business decision. EE has left Greenock, shut down its plant and call centre and moved all its staff up to Glasgow. It is a seven-day operation. I know folk who work for EE who could use public transport to get to work in Greenock but now have to use a car because of the time it takes to travel to Glasgow, particularly at weekends, when less public transport is available.

In preparing the wider report, was any consideration given to business requirements and decisions that have an effect on car usage?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

Yes.

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

A few years ago, I was at a meeting of one of the local community councils, and there were local authority councillors there, too. When a question came up about this particular proposal, one of the councillors—who is now retired—said, “The trunk road’s not a problem for the council to solve; it’s a problem for the Scottish Government to solve,” rather than taking a holistic approach and thinking, “If this goes ahead, what is the impact going to be on the existing infrastructure?” I would suggest that that exemplifies what Ashleigh Madjitey just said about a lack of leadership.

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

Sure. Regarding paragraph 92’s first bullet point on equalities, have you had any dialogue with ScotRail about its disability access work?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

If someone buys a ticket to use a train, they purchase the ticket, but part of that also covers the cost of accessing the rail, because Network Rail is a separate organisation.

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

I will ask about a different area in relation to paragraph 16: train travel. When the report was being put together, was any analysis undertaken of the true cost of train journeys and train fares?

Network Rail is still reserved to Westminster. However, the cost to ScotRail of accessing the rail will clearly add to the cost of a ticket. If Network Rail were to be devolved, that could have a positive impact in reducing the cost of tickets.

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

You reference a cross-Government plan in paragraph 17 of your report. Is that only within Scotland, or is it UK-wide?